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Unread 01-21-2010, 08:04 PM   #1
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If I want to make my Jeep....

If I want to make my Jeep, 1994, a mudding machine what are some specifications that I need to make sure I cover? I am replacing my factory engine with another 2.5 liter 4 cylinder and I'm replacing my clutch and rebuilding my rear-end. I really want to make it a nice mudding machine. I'm a cadet at West Point and my jeep is my baby.

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Unread 01-21-2010, 08:09 PM   #2
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um... really depends on what your definition of muddin machine. Because to me a true muddin machine is a 5.7l or bigger motor, 38" swampers, 1 ton axles, HD trans and T-case. and a lot of lift to go with all of that
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Unread 01-21-2010, 08:11 PM   #3
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First thing to do is fill out your jeep profile so we know what you have .
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Unread 01-21-2010, 08:11 PM   #4
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Big tires and lots of lift. The idea is to be tall enough that your frame wont catch on thick mud. Lockers will help a lot too.
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Unread 01-21-2010, 08:12 PM   #5
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Alright well I'm not talking like mud bogging competitions. I live in a rural area during the summer and like to take it out to some property with a good sized mud pit and alot of fire trails. I cant afford a bigger engine. I'm really just looking to have a good time without tearing it up at the same time. because my senior year I tore it up quite a bit, thats why im replacing everything and then i want to do more to it.
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Unread 01-21-2010, 08:15 PM   #6
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Thanks and working on my profile
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Unread 01-21-2010, 08:51 PM   #7
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a mudder needs power and a crawler needs gearing and articulation.

sound like you just need a good jeep. do the basics and see how it does for you.

a 2 to 4 inch lift and some 31 to 33 tires. might be all you need.

with a 4 banger your not going to be a "mudder".
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Unread 01-21-2010, 09:33 PM   #8
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Buy something else.

Mud tears up a jeep like crazy. I used to love mud, but after replacing starters and slave cyls and pullies and u-joints and bearings ever month it just gets old. Especially when it's a DD.

Honestly go get a cheap cherokee with the I6. cut the crap out of the fenders and put 33's and a snorkel on it. and have fun.
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Unread 01-21-2010, 09:40 PM   #9
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Building a quality mudder would cost you some money. To run deep mud you need a lift, a lift needs big tires, big tires need a big engine, big engines need big axles, etc. Damn these wranglers, why are they so easy to spend money on?
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Unread 01-21-2010, 09:41 PM   #10
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I wheel a 2.5L and I honestly can say that mud is it's weakest point. I can do trails, sand and climb with the best of 'em but in mud I just don't have enough torque.... So I have to rev the crap out of it to get anywhere in mud. So to be great it the mud, if you are talking about actual mud pits, you'll need more toque. If you are just talking about muddy roads and stuff the 4 banger does ok.
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Unread 01-21-2010, 09:48 PM   #11
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By the way, to what degree are you wanting to take this?

Like this........



Or this......

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Unread 01-21-2010, 09:58 PM   #12
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HAHA! Thats awsome, LOVE the pics! Right on Mark, love a good laugh... haha and I was having a cruddy day too.

In all seriousness though OP, to perform well in the mud you need all 4 tires spinning... If your on a budet, you can easily run lunchbox's in the front and rear because mud doesnt put too much force to them... Lunchboxes are terrible for crawling around and running into binds in the rocks. I have almost grown up in the endless mud pits of florida, and with a light as jeeps are, if you have all 4 tires spinning you would be REALLY surprised what you can manage to slip and slide through. I personally would recomend 33"s and 2 lunchboxes of your choice (aussies)... I think I have a feeling what your looking for, and lunchbox's will get you what you need for some local property and gettin' a little mud on the tires.
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Unread 01-21-2010, 11:10 PM   #13
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i would agree with apollo if your just looking into afew mud holes now and then get a lunch box front and rear and a nice set of 31-32s with the 2.5 you will hurt yourself more then help if over tire it. just remember an hour of fun in the mud will take you 3 hours in the shop working on it. anytime you hit the mud do youeself the favor of going thru and cleaning it and i dont mean just spray it off at the carwash.. mud is so hard on rigs and if the attention is not paid to the "aftermath" then your going to tear up even more stuff then being in the hole its self
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