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Unread 10-11-2007, 03:48 PM   #31
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Guessing that one or more things are "off" on your rig if your axle is walking more than an inch.


1. Ubolts are loose
2. Centering pins are broke
3. Bushings (shackle or Frame) are worn out, or originals
4. Shackles are too long, which will lead to #3



I've been 2 years with no sway or tracbars. Daily driven on the freeway and back country roads 100 miles a day, and wheeled hard on the weekends. ABSOLUTELY ZERO problems. Shackles are torqued properly, as well as my U-bolts, Running BDS 3.5" SUA packs with the second main leaf's military wrap cut to 1/4.


If your steering is pulling your axle out of center, you have issues a trac-bar is NOT going to fix. Check the items above and report back....

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Unread 10-11-2007, 05:04 PM   #32
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I havnt ran any Swaybars or Trackbars in over 2 years now and I dont have any issues at all
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Unread 10-11-2007, 07:13 PM   #33
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I used to run my front track bar until I got new front springs. The old ones were worn and I didn't like the way it drove. Now it's just fine without.
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Unread 10-11-2007, 07:28 PM   #34
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Gosh...

...CJ's don't have track bars, and they have 2" wide leaf springs. YJ's have a much stouter 2.5" leaf. They don't need 'em. They're for soccer mom's that can't drive. If you wanna argue about needing sway bars I'll listen. Track bars...no way!
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Unread 10-11-2007, 07:41 PM   #35
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Ya know what? To each her or his own... Ya want one, ya feel good about it, run one...you don't give a rip about it, install it in the blue trash can and be done with it... I've tried to give my old one away...nobody wants it...but, I think it'll make good stock for future projects...
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Unread 10-11-2007, 07:42 PM   #36
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Anybody got a Ford Super duty? Look under the front end, you WILL see a track bar.
Well on a Ford Superduty your going to need a trac bar. Could you imagine driving around with 5000 pounds on a gooseneck trailer. Of course you would have side to side movement. And on top of that the truck all but weighs 7000 pounds. My jeep would never have close to that amount of weight on it. Now i know the springs on my jeep aren't as heavy duty as the ones on the superduty. But still it's obvious after reading through this thread that you don't HAVE to have trac bars. Me and thousands of other don't run them. It's all preference though. Do what you want to do. It's your jeep. Most people on here don't care what you do to your jeep as long as you build it safe.
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Unread 10-11-2007, 08:36 PM   #37
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my front end does move a little with no trac bar. only because i have nothing holding my leaves together on the end. all the retainers had to be cut. I wont say a track bar is needed but it might help if you are worried about it. But i feel the advantage of not having it is much greater than the advantage of having it
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Unread 10-12-2007, 06:08 AM   #38
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I've had no sway bars and no track bars for over 2 years with no problems at all.

the suspension gets soft and it has more body roll in curves, but who cares if it has a "tight" suspension or not...it's not a sports car, you SHOULDNT be trying to fly through the twisties, anyway, it's a JEEP.

it there is too much body roll for your personal tastes, then get sway bar disconnects for the front, and that will help tremendously.

really, as long as springs and shackles and ubolts are all in good condition and properly torqued....the axle should not uncenter anything radically like the OP said...
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Unread 10-12-2007, 12:27 PM   #39
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the inclination that no trackbar would cause this is absolute weapons-grade baloneyum.
15 years with no trackbars on my YJ and my axles have never come out of alignment unless the leaf spring was damaged and even then it was front to back, not side to side.

I have ran no trackbars stock, and with a ton of different configurations and none still on my current setup.
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Unread 10-12-2007, 10:15 PM   #40
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Ya know what? , I think it'll make good stock for future projects...

That is the only reason that I have not given mine to the garbage man. Best mod I ever did on my YJ is get rid of the track bars. I live in florida and was getting stuck way to simply. The guys here on forum told me to get rid of the track bars, now my ride is softer, I have the flex to not get stuck with spinning wheels as easy.

Before taking off the track bars if I places a four inch brick under one front and one back tire diagonaly my tires would spin. Granted I did not have stock springs when I tried this experiment. Taking off the track bars gave me the flex that I needed.
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Unread 10-13-2007, 07:29 AM   #41
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2 1/2" softride lift, track bars gone. I like it!
Granted new poly bushing everywhere may have helped. But I'm seeing nothing but positive results and that's on hiway, beach, and rock.
I do have disconnects on the sway. Feel the sway helps a bit on tight higher speed unexpected turns,, but feel the tracks did little but argue with the axels trying to articulate on beach ruts and rock. Road? Never noticed any change.
I just checked and the front and rears are still aligned.
Why it wouldbe different for one than anouther? Something needs to be different somewheres.
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Unread 10-13-2007, 06:32 PM   #42
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There actually is a good solution that can quiet all the moaning and extravagant claims on both sides of this issue: the telescoping track bar. JKS makes it, I put it on my Jeep about 3-4 mos ago and it is the best dang money I have spent since I lifted the Jeep as far as on-road handling and safety is concerned. I also experienced the sideways bump-steer like problem on compression; now it handles every bit as good as my 2005 GMC Sierra. Best thing: grab a 9/16 wrench and it takes 3 seconds to loosen or tighten a bolt on the front of the trackbar that allows it to give full flex or tighten up the steering response. Check out my full review on it in the product review section of the forum. Hate sounding like a JKS spokesman or something, but it really works well for me.
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Unread 10-14-2007, 01:11 PM   #43
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All I know is over the past few days on road handeling is MUCH... and I do mean MUCH better. JMO though.
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Unread 10-18-2007, 07:54 PM   #44
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i used an old track bar once to make a steering box support. took to peices of flat stock, bent them around a pipe with some heat. clamped those around the round part of the steering box, then i bolted a peice of 1/4 flat stock to the clamp, and welded the track bar to it and bolted it to the frame.
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Unread 10-19-2007, 02:42 AM   #45
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hahaha...mine had about three seconds of hang time before impacting hard into the bottom of a dumpster!!!
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