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post #1 of 19 Old 04-12-2010, 07:06 PM Thread Starter
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I got those low-down soft top won't fit blues

Alright, so I I just purchased a used pavement ends soft top with all of the hardware for my '95. Everything is all there and it all appears to be in good shape, aside from some fading on the canvas. But for 80 bucks I can't complain much about that. Problem is I am having one hell of a time getting this thing to fit. I have been fighting with it for 3 days now. And when I say fighting with it I mean I come back inside after a few hours of messing with it with cut up fingers, pulled muscles, knots on my head, blood blisters, etc. etc. This thing might end up killing me. I got all of the hardware on just fine. I think my Jeep must have had a soft top on it before because all of the holes for the belt rails and wind shield channel were already drilled so that was easy. I followed the directions on the pavement ends website step by step and installed the canvas to the snaps on the bows. I got it in the windshield channel and the sail panels in the corners at the rear no problem. But I can't for the life of me get the snaps above the door surrounds to reach. I lack about a half inch to an inch on both sides and I can't get the side windows into the belt rails on the tub after I start both zippers. It has been mid 70's to 80's during the days here and the top is black so it gets pretty warm. I've applied a leather reconditioner all over it in hopes of getting the canvas to soften up a little and stretch. I've left rocks in strategic places on top of the main canopy over night hoping it would stretch the fabric out. I've tried with the bows up and the spreader bars locked, with the spreader bars down, with both bows completely down, windows zipped in, out. You name it, I have tried it. What confuses me the most is that the guy I bought it from said that he took the top off of his Jeep the day before I bought it and it came off the same year model.

So my question is, do you guys have any tips or tricks or maybe something that I haven't thought of. Were supposed to get some rain here next week and I don't really want my drip rails to be funneling rain into my lap so any and all help would be much appreciated.


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post #2 of 19 Old 04-12-2010, 07:10 PM
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I used to have a pavement ends soft top. It did not have any snaps above the doors. Mine was for half soft doors. Is yours something different like hard doors?

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post #3 of 19 Old 04-12-2010, 07:21 PM Thread Starter
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I used to have a pavement ends soft top. It did not have any snaps above the doors. Mine was for half soft doors. Is yours something different like hard doors?
No, I have steel half doors with soft factory style uppers (squared). All of the Hardware is the same as an oem soft top. In fact everything looks just like a factory top but the windows say pavement ends. Oh and the snaps aren't on the doors them self they are on the door surrounds right above the top of the doors when they are closed, if that makes any sense.
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post #4 of 19 Old 04-12-2010, 08:15 PM
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I have the same problem everytime I take it off. I just wait for a sunny day and wet the top down then let it dry and warm and it stretches to fit. Hope that helped.
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post #5 of 19 Old 04-12-2010, 08:54 PM
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When we worked with canvas and had a PITA piece that needed to fit we threw it in the dryer for about 2 minutes. Works wonders. Not sure about the coated canvas though.
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post #6 of 19 Old 04-12-2010, 09:58 PM
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I had the same problem with my old top. You have to let it sit out in the sun for a few hours or throw it in the dryer to loosen her up. I've had luck in the past with sending my wife out to work on it for a blow dryer, as well. Don't pull her too hard or you'll bust a zipper (I have - no fun).
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post #7 of 19 Old 04-12-2010, 10:51 PM
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When I put my top on the first time it was really tight.

I got the top on as far as I could, then I put a small electric heater inside for a couple of hours. Then I managed to get it a little bit farther.

Repeat.

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post #8 of 19 Old 04-13-2010, 06:04 AM
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Did you check the distance from the windshield frame to the back of the tub?
I have a bestop supertop, but I had to adjust the windshield in order to get my soft top to fit properly.

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post #9 of 19 Old 04-13-2010, 09:16 AM
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No, I have steel half doors with soft factory style uppers (squared). All of the Hardware is the same as an oem soft top. In fact everything looks just like a factory top but the windows say pavement ends. Oh and the snaps aren't on the doors them self they are on the door surrounds right above the top of the doors when they are closed, if that makes any sense.
Ahhh. There's the issue. I had the "flip top". Mine wasn't like factory at all. I didn't even know they made one that would fit with the stock frame.

I agree with setting the windshied back. I had to do that with a hardtop.

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post #10 of 19 Old 04-13-2010, 01:07 PM
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HI,
I hate to say it but buy a Best Top. Tight at first but fits fine. Later, the tightness goes away and it becomes easy.

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post #11 of 19 Old 04-13-2010, 02:35 PM
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I got to replace my top soon so electric heater inside to help strechit good idea
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post #12 of 19 Old 04-13-2010, 03:52 PM Thread Starter
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HI,
I hate to say it but buy a Best Top. Tight at first but fits fine. Later, the tightness goes away and it becomes easy.

Sparky
I do plan on getting a super top later on. But right now, that is just not an option. Wish I had an extra 800 bucks laying around but sadly I don't. That's why I jumped all over this top when I found it so cheap on CL.
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post #13 of 19 Old 04-13-2010, 05:11 PM
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not familiar with the pavement ends top, but with my supertop - partially knocking down the bow assy, then zip in windows, etc. THEN putting the bow assy fully back up helps alot.
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post #14 of 19 Old 04-13-2010, 05:37 PM Thread Starter
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Just got back in from screwing with that thing again. All I can say is F that top in the A. I had my wife sitting in the Jeep with a hair dryer while I was out side straddling tires and side steps with a couple pair of big vice grips putting all of my weight on it. And I still didn't even get it close. I busted two zippers and started a small tear on one edge. So if anyone wants a black pavement ends soft top there is one out in the woods near my house.
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post #15 of 19 Old 04-13-2010, 07:00 PM
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Sorry but..lol
There has to be something wrong here. Wrong top to frame or wrong top for the YJ. I have several tops including a PE but it is the fliptop version. I have never had this much trouble from a softop.
I guess you have given up on it. If not post some pics of the top and hardware maybe we can help more.
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