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Unread 01-02-2010, 03:52 PM   #61
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I was told the same thing about the "+" side of the springs being installed toward the front of the vehicle. When I was doing research before buying my kit, I was also told by Rocky Road that all of the YJ springs are the same size and will work on either the front or the rear. My kit came with two heavies (with shims) and two mediums without shims (with the Dakar stickers only on the mediums- if that matters). I put the heavies up front b/c I have dual batt's and a winch, so I wanted to keep everything level. I put the mediums in the back. I didn't even notice the shims on the front springs until after the install (I was new to lifts and didn't really know what to look for). But I have had no problems with the shimmed front springs, so I'm going to leave them on there.

It looks like your kit came with 4 heavies, just from the size of the springs. I guess it just depends on the dealer and what they consider a HD kit? I read somewhere that OME doesn't actually assemble the kits together; they just make the components and the dealers put the various springs and shocks into whatever package they want.
Good info. Then that is just one variation of what will work. I like the heavy springs up front too. I like heavy all around and he is just fine the way it is then. I wouldn't mind having an extra leaf in my front springs.

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Unread 01-02-2010, 04:39 PM   #62
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Good info. Then that is just one variation of what will work. I like the heavy springs up front too. I like heavy all around and he is just fine the way it is then. I wouldn't mind having an extra leaf in my front springs.

Yeah, I definitely agree with you. The heavies all around will look good and be a really stout suspension. It may be a little more of a rough ride in the back due to the fact that there will not be as much weight back there to sit on the springs. But then again, it looks like the OP has a hardtop on his YJ, so the heavies should come in handy on the rear of the vehicle and soften them up a bit.

I can't get over how much better my YJ rides after I put on my Emu suspension. I was sitting on flat, busted stock leafs with over 150k miles on them, so the difference has been quite substantial.


And Jake, thanks a lot for the great pics of your greasable bushings and bolts! I sent you a thumbs up for those .

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Bushings with cut outs for grease.
I think the OME bushings I got with my lift will work fine with the greasable bolts. They seem to have similar cuts in them for grease (Although, I don't think they are on the inside of the bushings). Does anyone here see any problems with that set up? I'll try to get a picture up close of the OME bushings, for a side to side comparison.
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Unread 01-02-2010, 09:24 PM   #63
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Yeah, I definitely agree with you. The heavies all around will look good and be a really stout suspension. It may be a little more of a rough ride in the back due to the fact that there will not be as much weight back there to sit on the springs. But then again, it looks like the OP has a hardtop on his YJ, so the heavies should come in handy on the rear of the vehicle and soften them up a bit.


And Jake, thanks a lot for the great pics of your greasable bushings and bolts! I sent you a thumbs up for those .

No problem on the pics man! It rides nicely now too, it bounces instead of giving me whiplash when I hit bumps on the street now

Here are some flex shots (With the swaybar)




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Unread 01-02-2010, 10:09 PM   #64
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Bigger tires next on the list?
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Unread 01-02-2010, 10:38 PM   #65
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Bigger tires next on the list?
No, more like buying gears and other crap for that 8.8 you and Max talked me into buying!

I just price checked, and gears are big money even if I install them, holy smokes!

Building that 8.8 is looking like a 2yr project for sure!

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No, more like buying gears and other crap for that 8.8 you and Max talked me into buying!

I just price checked, and gears are big money even if I install them, holy smokes!

Building that 8.8 is looking like a 2yr project for sure!

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You've opened up the Jeep can of worms . Mod one part, and you'll have to change 3 other things to get the Jeep where it should be. Good luck with the 8.8. I would like to do that mod when I get another house with a garage (and some time ).
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Unread 01-05-2010, 02:17 PM   #67
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Well, I loaded two NP231s in the back of the Jeep today and DAYUM it rides smooooooth with weight in the back!

Now I understand what everybody meant about it riding like a Cadilac! Those heavy duty springs front and rear helped my ride a lot from stock, but having extra weight in the back really smoothed things out.

I haven't driven the Jeep with my Hard top on yet, so hopefully the hard top and hard doors will help me retain that ride quality. I planned on building a heavy duty rear bumper w/ swing out tire carrier in the future anyway, so if all else fails that'll smooth things out

I love my Old Man Emu!

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I love my OME lift, but Ive got some squat in the back. It doesn't bother me when I am driving, but you can see it when you look at the Jeep. My markings aren't all turned the right way, but I talked to one of the installers at my local 4wheel parts and he said it doesn't matter.

Has anyone else had an issue with some squat with the springs? I've only had them for a few months.
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I have the opposate, I have a little rake. I ordered the kit for soft tops, but I think they sent me the kit for hard tops, because my rear springs have one more leaf than the front springs.

Also, cant remember where, but I was told to put the ends with the + twards the shackle, so thats what I did. All my springs had a + on one end.
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I just called ARB about the markings. I was told that the + / 0 markings can be disregarded. They are only used during the manufacturing process and are of no significance in terms of spring rate, lift height, or installation.
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The new OME lift looks awesome. I'm thinking about getting the shocks for my jeep but I have other mods to get first.
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I have the opposate, I have a little rake. I ordered the kit for soft tops, but I think they sent me the kit for hard tops, because my rear springs have one more leaf than the front springs.

Also, cant remember where, but I was told to put the ends with the + twards the shackle, so thats what I did. All my springs had a + on one end.

Check out the part #'s on your springs and see which ones they sent you.

Here is the ARB application guide for their YJ products, including their Old Man Emu Springs.
http://www.arbusa.com/uploads/PDF/ac...WranglerYJ.pdf
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I love my OME lift, but Ive got some squat in the back. It doesn't bother me when I am driving, but you can see it when you look at the Jeep. My markings aren't all turned the right way, but I talked to one of the installers at my local 4wheel parts and he said it doesn't matter.

Has anyone else had an issue with some squat with the springs? I've only had them for a few months.


What weight load springs do you have in the back (heavy or medium)? I know the heavy springs are made for supporting heavy weighted accessories (winch, bull bar, hard top, rear tire bumper, etc...).

The only thing I can think of is maybe you have mediums in the back and some heavy stuff in the rear (maybe a hard top or beefy rear bumper). The mediums may have a hard time supporting all that weight without giving a little and sagging.
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They sent me 4 heavy springs I believe. All 4 of my springs have 5 leaves.

I have a 4 banger and no roof on right now so the ride isn't as smooth as it should be, but I knew that I would be adding certain heavy accessories to the Jeep in the future so I got the heavy duty springs.

Like I said earlier, it rides like a truck now, smoother with weight in the back. When my build is complete, it will ride like a Caddy. But for now, it's still tons better than stock.

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If you guys need additional load carrying ability for the rear (or front for that matter), ARB sells an extra leaf that you can install into your spring packs. I believe the part #'s are J1FXL for the front (around $60/ea) and J1RXL for the rear(around $30/ea)
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