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Unread 03-16-2010, 10:29 AM   #16
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I wanted to post this pic of the transfer case rod that needed to be bent, but I did not have a good pic before today.
jeep-progress-march-15-2010-001.jpg

I did not get as much time into this as I would have liked to Monday night, but I know more about the motor, wiring and fuel system that has been transplanted into the Wrangler. After careful cross checking the components and wire colors, I discovered that this is from a '91-'95 Cherokee XJ. I am pleased to learn this, but this also creates an additional challenge to graft an '88 XJ harness into a '91+ XJ and an '88 YJ harness. I have seen in a couple build threads on how the authors approached the wiring dilemna. I am hoping that the '88 engine harness will be a direct plug-and-play into the components, but I will find out for sure when I start checking terminal plugs and routing.

This is from under the dash of the YJ.
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I am starting with a clean slate on the YJ dash. I should be able to graft in the XJ harness along with the YJ harness.
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Since the YJ was carbureted, I decided to strip it all out and start fresh. Hopefully, I have made a good decision. I will find out soon enough.

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Unread 03-18-2010, 03:59 PM   #17
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I managed to spend some time on this on Tuesday, but not Wednesday. All I manged to do was sort out the spaghetti mess called a wiring harness.

In the box of goodies, I found two ECMs. The first one is the original '88 YJ ECM.
jeep-progress-3-16-2010-001.jpg

The second one I found was that of the 93+ Cherokee XJ.
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It was dated 8/10/92 as seen in this pic.
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This one was the one from the '88 XJ that I had stripped out.
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With the knowledge that I have of the '93 plus wiring and ECM, my '88 wiring and ECM has been packed away into a box until future use or sale.
jeep-progress-3-16-2010-008.jpg

Hopefully, with the help of some of the threads on here for aimed at the 4.2 to 4.0 conversion, I will have this all figured out by the end of the weekend! (Crossing fingers).
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Unread 03-22-2010, 09:25 PM   #18
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glad to see you are making progress. I'm a little stalled out at the bulkhead connector because I still have the 89 yj under dash wiring.
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Unread 03-23-2010, 11:41 AM   #19
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glad to see you are making progress. I'm a little stalled out at the bulkhead connector because I still have the 89 yj under dash wiring.
I am at that point also. I did go out to the garage last night and I picked through the spaghetti mess seeing what wire went where. I will be cross referencing them with the manual(s) tonight when I get home from work.



In the mean time, I did have some success with the stering column.

I had one heck of a time trying to figure out why my dommer switch did not work. After tearing down the column on my '65 (steering upgrade) I found out why.
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This was missing in my box of parts.

The column is in and functional!
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I have a heater control assy. with broken mounting tabs. Plus I need the control cables, the plastic retainers were ripped out mercilessly. So, I will be in the market in the near future for these parts.
jeep-progress-weekend-march-20-2010-005.jpg

The wiring conversion has started. It will take me some time to get this finished.
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Unread 03-23-2010, 02:08 PM   #20
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This is an awesome thread bro!!! I not only wish I had the time but the know-how to do what you're doing. I'll definitely be keeping tabs on this one Perhaps I'll live vicariously through you
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Unread 03-23-2010, 02:14 PM   #21
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This is an awesome thread bro!!! I not only wish I had the time but the know-how to do what you're doing. I'll definitely be keeping tabs on this one Perhaps I'll live vicariously through you
I had to laugh a little at your time comment. Time? I really don't have any free time. I take all my free time away from my family in order to work on this Jeep. They know that it will be well worth it in the long run, they are excited to go Jeepin, convoy style. With my '88 wrangler, my wife's '07 Unlimited and our daughters '65 CJ5A, it will be a fun summer!
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Unread 03-23-2010, 02:39 PM   #22
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Looks like quite a project. At least the tub is clean and all the stuff is already out of the way.
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Unread 03-24-2010, 10:18 AM   #23
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Looks like quite a project. At least the tub is clean and all the stuff is already out of the way.
Yeah, it does have an excellent foundation to build upon. The tub is in as good a shape as anyone can expect. Thanks to the P.O. I have more work, but I have less work. I could have dropped in a 350/TH400/D20, but the D20 was the wrong side front output. So, I created a headache by continuing what was started. I am sure that it will be well worth it when it is all finished.
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Unread 03-24-2010, 10:27 AM   #24
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I was reading this and just thought "wow, this is an intense project." Then I read you are in Vernal. If you need help with anything major, I end up out that way at least a few times a month, I'm sure I could swing by and help a fellow Utah jeeper
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Unread 03-26-2010, 10:37 AM   #25
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I was reading this and just thought "wow, this is an intense project." Then I read you are in Vernal. If you need help with anything major, I end up out that way at least a few times a month, I'm sure I could swing by and help a fellow Utah jeeper
Thanks! I will keep you in mind.
Yes, this is an intense project, but it was one that I was willing to tackle. My wife is almost sick of me dragging old Jeeps home, it took me a little convincing to allow this one to follow me home.



I have not been able to do much on it this week due to my wife trainging as a Census taker, but I did manage to look and record the wiring. I did record every wire in the blocks, but decided to look at what I really needed and record those wire color codes.
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I do not have the exact locations correct as to wire terminal placement in relation to the blocks, but for my references, they work fine.
jeep-progress-3-23-2010-001.jpg
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I have narrowed down the wires from 46 to 18, quite the drop in required wiring. I should have the wiring 75% complete by the time Monday rolls around.
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Unread 04-01-2010, 03:01 PM   #26
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I have been MIA for a few days, heck I haven't been able to spend the quality time needed with my YJ.

Last night, I managed to locate what dash pieces that I had and assembled them.
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The finished pic! I was glad to make some progress!
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So far, the foglight switch is all that I am missing for the drivers side part of the dash to be complete!
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Unread 04-01-2010, 03:06 PM   #27
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And now, some more wiring decoding.
Throughout the past week, I have been able to record wire colors and cross reference them to where they go.


I came across this "layout" sheet that I made for when I converted the 1965 CJ5A to power steering. It may come in handy for the Basket Case. I purchased a Painless Ignition Switch Conversion kit, I found this to be quite useful when I reworked the wiring under my CJ dash.
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Unread 04-01-2010, 03:21 PM   #28
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The 88 YJ under dash wire colors and their locations. I did not have a basis for how to identify the harness block, so I made one that I could follow.


1988 YJ wire colors and their locations. (I believe that the 87-90 carbureted are the same or similar)
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1993 Cherokee XJ (1991-1995) wire colors and their locations.
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I have changed my mind somewhat since this time to concentrate on what was needed to convert the 88 YJ dash to the 93 XJ engine side. I will have some of that coming up hopefully in the next installment.
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Unread 04-01-2010, 06:02 PM   #29
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The one that has Bendix on it is abs brake control module. Since you installed the auto did you also grab the tcu ?
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Unread 04-02-2010, 07:52 AM   #30
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I have factory wiring diagrams for an '87 YJ and '95 XJ from when I did my 4.0 swap, if you think they'll help you. Let me know.
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