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Unread 03-24-2014, 04:00 PM   #1
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Howell VSS Adapter

Quick question...... anyone find a replacement other than through Howell for the VSS? OR,,,,, anyone who built there own TBI system find one?

The Howell part number is VSS263, but I'm finding it difficult to drop $110 for a new one. The input shaft snapped off mine, in the speedo gear, so I need a new gear as well.

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Unread 03-24-2014, 04:09 PM   #2
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yep, put in my own TBI system. Used the one from Jags That Run, Item 1 shown on this page

http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Spe...eedometer.html

If I recall it was about $70 and hooked right up to the speedometer cable and transfer case. One wire goes to the correct ECM pin, the other to ground. Works perfect!
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http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.c...rod/prd109.htm
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Unread 03-24-2014, 05:17 PM   #4
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Jeremy, did you use one of these? Just wonder cause the other sites show them at 2K pulses per mile, and the Dakota ones say 8K, I'd love to use one of those though if I can since they're half the price.

If not, I'll order the one Bernie posted. It's $25 cheaper than through Howell.
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they have what you need just give them a call.
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Unread 03-24-2014, 05:27 PM   #6
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yep, put in my own TBI system. Used the one from Jags That Run, Item 1 shown on this page

http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Spe...eedometer.html

If I recall it was about $70 and hooked right up to the speedometer cable and transfer case. One wire goes to the correct ECM pin, the other to ground. Works perfect!
This. Howell buys them from jags that run, per the guy on the phone. Doesn't matter how it's hooked up. Only two wires. Lol.
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231 tcase? Try calling Cris:
http://www.cfoffroad.com/
He will have one at a much cheaper price
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Unread 03-27-2014, 12:05 AM   #9
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231 tcase? Try calling Cris:
http://www.cfoffroad.com/
He will have one at a much cheaper price
Sorry Que just saw this. You think he'll have that VSS from the Howell system?

I'll try and give him a call tomorrow.
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Unread 03-27-2014, 06:50 AM   #10
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He will have a VSS and it shouldnt matter.
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Can't you use one from a '91 wrangler? Both mechanical and electrical.. Or is there something I'm missing here???
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Can't you use one from a '91 wrangler? Both mechanical and electrical.. Or is there something I'm missing here???
Don't know. I don't know how many pulses the cpu for the howell needs to see etc. Dakota Digital told me they have one that's 8k but the JTR site shows one identical to the one from Howell and they say it's a 2k. I just don't know, kinda funny though because I've obviously been running without one since Sept of last year when the speedo quit working. I just pulled it apart this week to see what was up with it.

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He will have a VSS and it shouldnt matter.
Assuming you mean is shouldn't matter, as in one from a '91, like nagel was saying?
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Unread 03-27-2014, 09:08 PM   #13
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timatoe, you need a VSS that is 2k pulses per mile. Here is a thread over on the Binder Planet Site that offers some alternatives to the JTR VSS. Sounds like most any will give a signal to your ecm and turn the light off. Getting an accurate speed indication and hence proper fuel regulation is something else, but Bill USN offers up some ways to do that

http://www.binderplanet.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=50649
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The guy at JTR didn't seem to think the VSS was important. Mine went belly up and it caused my speedo to bounce around something fierce and when I called and explained it I brought up not wanting to drive it. He said it doesn't really do anything.
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Unread 03-28-2014, 10:46 AM   #15
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The vss is used for calculating engine loading by the ecu. When you are coming to a stop it will look at the vss and hold idle high to compensate for the alternator load.
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