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Unread 08-10-2011, 01:48 PM   #16
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I've heard about putting your own kit together from junkyard parts. I have a couple of issues with it. One, you don't really know what you're getting from junked parts and two, not sure what all I need to make it work. I don't have any junkyards around me, so that's an issue as well.
I did noth think to suggest that, and it is avlaid option.

Go to the howell website and get the jeep installation manual, it's free. There are part numbers for most of the stuff and it would not be hard to make your own kit. You would need to buy or may your own throttle adapter plate though. See how much they want for just the harness.

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Unread 08-10-2011, 03:03 PM   #17
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I did noth think to suggest that, and it is avlaid option.

Go to the howell website and get the jeep installation manual, it's free. There are part numbers for most of the stuff and it would not be hard to make your own kit. You would need to buy or may your own throttle adapter plate though. See how much they want for just the harness.
I guess I can check carparts to see what it would cost to piece together. I'm just worried about getting bad parts.
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Unread 08-10-2011, 04:51 PM   #18
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........ so for someone not really interested in putting something together themselves the system is nearly one source, plug and play (not entirely, but nearly).
Or for someone who doesn't have that option due to emissions laws.

But yest that's obviously a good option, if he's willing to take on the task.
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Unread 08-10-2011, 05:03 PM   #19
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Or for someone who doesn't have that option due to emissions laws.

But yest that's obviously a good option, if he's willing to take on the task.
I don't have emissions to contend with, so I'm going to look into piecing it.
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Unread 08-11-2011, 06:27 AM   #20
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jhumphrey, shoot me a pm. I did a lot of research on parts and what was needed. I'd be happy to share what I have so you can get an understanding of everything. I also might have a few items left over from my install that could help if you are interested.

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Unread 08-11-2011, 07:04 AM   #21
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The JY TBI will be better for emissions than howell because it controls spark. Besides the harness and tb every other part can be purchased for less than a howell kit! If you take your time and lay the wires out it is really simple. Here is some info and many of us have done it if you have questions.

http://www.binderplanet.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=48769

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/j...te-up-1066016/

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From the jy you can expect a sensor or two to be bad. Mine i got needs a temp sensor and the iac cleaned, but even with those issues it runs 150% better than a carb.
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Unread 08-11-2011, 03:16 PM   #22
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The JY TBI will be better for emissions than howell because it controls spark. Besides the harness and tb every other part can be purchased for less than a howell kit!
That's fine and dandy, but many people don't have the option, that's what jbolty and I were both saying. It's not legal for people in CA for example to do that.
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Does anyone know what the actual difference is between the Howell "emissions" kit and the "offroad" kit?
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Does anyone know what the actual difference is between the Howell "emissions" kit and the "offroad" kit?
It's probably a $15 difference in O2 sensor and a $85 smog legal sticker.
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It's probably a $15 difference in O2 sensor and a $85 smog legal sticker.
Thats my guess too. I dont see any differences between the two, other than price
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very possible......lol
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Unread 08-12-2011, 06:03 AM   #27
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Howell's install instructions have a statement that for an emissions legal install you have to have a fully functioning catalytic converter, egr valve, pcv valve, canister and purge system, and a vehicle speed sensor. Their non-emissions install does not have a vehicle speed sensor, and the vehicle speed sensor is not supplied thru Howell, they will only tell you the sources. Not a lot of differences between the systems, but some. Personally, I think you are paying more for them getting the approvals than you are for different hardware
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The howell is less of a system than you can put together from the jy. There must be a way to get approved for emissions. You guys are just screwed by everyone.

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