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post #16 of 33 Old 04-04-2009, 10:53 PM
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What was the weight like compared to the Dana 35?


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post #17 of 33 Old 04-04-2009, 11:33 PM
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It should hold up okay for you there on the islands.

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We have been imprinted into HP meaning High Pinion. I really don't know what it means in this particular application. I read up on it from this thread http://www.arcticoffroad.com/forum/s...p?t=826&page=1 But now I can't get that linky to worky, so I am lost. I'll try to troll thru the ZJ forum more on this and see if I can come up with more info, but that was the nomenclature that was used in this axle in the online stuff I read about.

Edited the thread, I had mistakenly put in HP D44 instead of the proper nomenclature HD D44

SHAGGYJIM I had to deadlift these axles and get them in and out of my Truck by myself, they seemed to be more or less equivalent in weight, but that is just me manually grunting them around. I can only say they are heavy (note sig line) It seemed to not weigh as much as the D30 I just had to haul down a flight of concrete steps today, by myself no less, and put in the cellar. I'll have to dig around and see if anyone knows the weight of a fully loaded 44A, D30 and D35.

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Maybe it means - Hawaii Proven.
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I am sending PM to another Jeeper who may be able to tell me how to make that link above work......something is missing.

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dude i know what you mean about having to carry those axles around dang there heavy. Nice work i really like how you did the skid and it all looks clean very nice
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I went to that website & tried to search....I came up with this thread which was the only thread mentioning a D44:

http://www.arcticoffroad.com/forum/s...ight=Dana+HP44
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I'll find it......I know I will, I'm pretty sure it was Arctic. When I do, I'll post it up for everyone.

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Cool - in the meantime, enjoy your new rear axle.
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Just curious, but what did you mean when you used the term "Dana HP44"?

More specifically, what's the HP part mean?
Joe D--Ummmm, I messed that up. I went back thru some of my original notes on this, it is HD not HP. Of course, I don 't know what the HD stands for. I'm still trying to find a better reference link as the Arctic link I had used for most of my initial research appears to be no longer there.

So......for the benefit of others being able to properly thread search, could you use your special moderator mad ninja skills and change the misleading (sorry, didn't mean to) title of my thread from HP to HD?

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I have never been into a 44A bro but I have been told that the internals are not the same as other 44's. Have you looked into this? What did you find out?

Apparently the ring is 8.5 like other 44's, the pinion is heavier though, more like a 60. There is way less available in the aftermarket as far as lockers, Aussie made one, but it is in limited production and expensive. In the online article I am still searching for, there was mention of a South African manufacturer that made a different type locker for it, but that article is escaping me still. Eventually someone from the ZJ forum will pipe in with some info on this. Otherwise, I'm still searching....

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Excellent example of working with what you got. Nice job.

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Im pretty sure its just the aussie out there for the d44a, somewhere I read that the axle shafts are larger, but dont take my word for it. I went to the aussie site and they list for $399. Anyway nice work with the truss!
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So I just saw this thread linked in another post, and figured I'd chime in with the promised followup for inquiring minds. I have over 30K miles since on this axle, it has given me no problem, but then again I don't run The Hammers or Moab every weekend. I haven't felt the need to find an 8.8 or a steel 44 as they are hard to come by. I did see a pair of Scout axles come and go, and a Vintage Grand Wagoneer front/rear as well. I have picked up the Jeep many times with a floor jack under the Trussed/Skidded aluminum pumpkin without concerns, so it is holding up well for me. I figure I'll wheel it til I break it, then Jackstand it and drive one of the other 4 vehicles in the stable until I find another axle, or toss the orig 3.07 D35 back under it and put the front shaft in mothballs. Mothballs that is until I come up with a replacement. It's meeting my needs and I'm not about to ship a custom built Currie out here. Until I win the Lottery.

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So did you change the front gear ratio to match the rear? I ask because you have said that this was a 3.73 and your stock D35 was a 3.07, so I take it you had to either change the front ratio or keep it at 3.07 (Which I'm not sure would work, would it?)

Nice work though, and it's held up so it must be half decent.

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