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Unread 01-08-2011, 06:36 PM   #1
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how to tell if I have bad injectors

I think my jeep has an injector problem, I have a bad miss that I can't get rid of. I've change the plugs, wires, cap, rotor, fuel filter and O2 sensor. I can't find a vacuum leak either. It's not a slight miss, it's a hard miss if that makes sense. The only thing left is the fuel system, I think maybe an injector is not firing or flowing. I'm going to get my meter an check them tomorrow, if they ohm out okay is it possible they still aren't flowing or maybe sticking? How do I tell if they aren't flowing? How do I clean them if I pull them?

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Unread 01-08-2011, 06:49 PM   #2
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Not sure how to tell you if they aren't flowing. But to clean: I took a cardboard box, and made 6 small holes in it. Marked each hole for the corresponding injector, and set them in. Then I put a little fuel injector cleaner in the top of each one (the same kind available at any parts store that you add to the tank), and let it sit for about 48 hrs. Then I flipped them over, and repeated the procedure, again for 48 hrs. Then I took each one and LIGHTLY scrubbed them with a soft bristle brush (I used a soft tooth brush). Once clean, I replaced them. Might want to change out your o-rings when you do this. They are cheap to replace anyway.

I was doing a motor rebuild so I had the time to let them sit for that long. You could probably get away with 12 hrs on each side, just to let gravity pull a little cleaner through it. Oh, and I poured a lot of injector cleaner into my fuel rail as well. I got a lot of black stuff out of when I did. I just poured a little in, shook it up, dumped it, and repeat.
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When one of my injectors stopped working I got engine code 27. I chose not to clean them, but instead upgraded them from a vendor on ebay. Not sure if the 4.0 can use injectors from a different vehicle but the 2.5 can use 19# bosch ones.
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I've had it throw a code twice but it goes away when I turn the jee off. I've seen some upgraded injectors somewhere that supposedly gives it 10 more HP.

http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/fuel-injectors/?itemid=223


I hope mine can just be cleaned and the problem goes away.


I googled the part number and found these for $23 each, that's $100 cheaper than the link above if they're the same

injector.http://www.fuelinjector.citymaker.co...64/4706227.htm
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I think the injectors are supposed to measure about 14.5 Ohms.

If you disconnect them one at a time with the engine running, you should be able to tell if one of them is bad.
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Here is the factory ones from the same guy you posted above.
http://www.fuelinjector.citymaker.co...95/5437763.htm

I would do like he says and get the 0280155703 injectors.
http://www.fuelinjector.citymaker.co...25/4735791.htm

You can also get them from a junkyard from any of the dodge or chrysler cars listed there. I just pulled 4 from a sebring this past friday, $5 each. But that was the only one they had, most of the other cars and vans were V6's. I still need to find 2 more. These are the newer EV6 injectors with the old style plug for the wires. They are the 4 hole design and better atomize the fuel for a better running engine. Be carefull if pulling from a neon. Apparently there are 2 diffrent 2.0 engine, one is SOHC, the other is DOHC. Only the DOHC has the correct injectors. The SOHC one has ones that look the same, but are slightly shorter and wont work.
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I think the injectors are supposed to measure about 14.5 Ohms.

If you disconnect them one at a time with the engine running, you should be able to tell if one of them is bad.
X2. trouble shoot them like a miss on a sparkplug and disconnect one at a time. If the miss doesn't get worse, look closer at that injector.
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injectors are good place to look, but not the only place. have you though about your timing being off?
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Timing is set by the computer and is not user adjustable.

Several yrs ago I had an intermittant miss on my '92. Finally I replaced all the "other" sensors: coolant temp, manifold air temp, crank pos, cam pos, and manifold absolute pressure. It fixed the problem.
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Okay, I'm about to order the fuel injectors from motorman but his are rebuilt injectors, the other link is for brand new injectors.

I assume rebuilt injectors will be fine or should I spend the extra $100 and get new ones?
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