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Unread 05-11-2007, 07:46 PM   #1
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How much for repairs

Okay folks... I'm not gonna lie.. I'm a big newbie. This will be my first car purchase if all goes the way I hope. So, someone is selling a 1990 Jeep Wrangler, with 92,000 miles on it. They are asking $1300 obo. He says it's in great shape, except that it needs "starter and clutch slave cylinder". I'm new to cars, so could someone explain what these parts do, how much it will cost to fix the car... and if there's anything else I should be conscious of regarding the purchase of an older jeep.

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Unread 05-11-2007, 07:58 PM   #2
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i just did my starter little while ago, 120 bucks at autozone with the old one. without the old one its over 200 i think, its really easy to put in, takes 10 mins, so no labor.

not sure about the clutch slave cylinder, never done it, but grab a haynes manual, im sure autozone has the part, you can check on line for the price.
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Unread 05-11-2007, 08:08 PM   #3
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hmm... are there any walkthrough guides on replacing a starter / clutch slave cylinder. Also what the heck IS a clutch slave cylinder? It sounds serious O_o
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Unread 05-11-2007, 08:17 PM   #4
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The clutch master cylinder is located on the firewall next to the brake master cylinder and its used to transfer the clutch pedal pressure to release the clutch. You will know if the clutch master cylinder is failing if you rest your foot on the clutch pedal and the pedal slowly goes to the floor.

If you decide to change the clutch master cylinder it is a good idea to also get a clutch slave cylinder at the same time because both usually fail around the same time.

Water is the enemy of the clutch master cylinder and if you don't flush the fluid, you will get rust in the clutch system causing the clutch master cylinder to fail.

The clutch slave cylinder is located on the clutch bell housing on the tranny on 94 and up Jeeps (I believe).... yours would be internal and more of a pain in the butt.

Get yourself and Chilton or Haynes manual for Jeep Wranglers. Hell, get both.
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Unread 05-11-2007, 08:24 PM   #5
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hmm... are there any walkthrough guides on replacing a starter / clutch slave cylinder. Also what the heck IS a clutch slave cylinder? It sounds serious O_o
sort of... the chiltons and haynes mauals. they help.
Slave cylinder is part of your clutch system.
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Unread 05-11-2007, 08:35 PM   #6
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What if I just dropped it off at a mechanic and said... 'fix it'. How much do you think they would charge? I just checked ebay for a Haynes manual for a wrangler... years '87-'95 and I'm wondering how technical the lingo/descriptions are. I'm a pretty capable guy as far as learning/fixing things, but I don't have ALOT of time to dedicate to big projects at the moment.

How much more life do you think this jeep has in it? 1990-92k miles. It looks like it was taken good care of. I wouldn't be using it for long trips
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Unread 05-11-2007, 08:43 PM   #7
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What if I just dropped it off at a mechanic and said... 'fix it'. How much do you think they would charge? I just checked ebay for a Haynes manual for a wrangler... years '87-'95 and I'm wondering how technical the lingo/descriptions are. I'm a pretty capable guy as far as learning/fixing things, but I don't have ALOT of time to dedicate to big projects at the moment.

How much more life do you think this jeep has in it? 1990-92k miles. It looks like it was taken good care of. I wouldn't be using it for long trips
i wouldn't pay more than 6-700 to fix it, parts and labor. 500 or so for the slave cylinder, and the other 1-200 for the starter. really i would just do the starter yourself. if you've got a socket set you can do it in half an hour and save yourself the labor charge. the slave is a lot more involved as the tranny has to come down. big project if you're not used to working on your own stuff. and as for the life left in it, if it was well taken care off then you're looking at another 100K miles to go. both the 4.2 and the 2.5L engines can run forever when properly maintained. and when they do go it's just an opportunity to upgrade
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Unread 05-11-2007, 08:53 PM   #8
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So the whole tranny has to come out to fix the slave cylinder? Would it be cheaper for me to buy something like this:

http://www.clutchcityonline.com/products/01-033.shtml

and drop the parts / car off with the mechanic?

I'm gonna see if the guy will let it go for $900, if so.. it sounds like I'll be able to get her up and running for about $600 more. $1500 seems like a good deal for a 92k, '90 wrangler? Oh, and it's 6 cylander.
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Unread 05-11-2007, 09:01 PM   #9
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on my 1990 the slave cylinder is internal, which kinda sucks cuz that means you gotta drop the trans.
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My friend and i did the same thing on his 89 4 banger. Parts were like 200 for all the slave cylinder and master cylinder , labor was a case of beer.
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Unread 05-11-2007, 09:31 PM   #11
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So the whole tranny has to come out to fix the slave cylinder? Would it be cheaper for me to buy something like this:

http://www.clutchcityonline.com/products/01-033.shtml

and drop the parts / car off with the mechanic?

I'm gonna see if the guy will let it go for $900, if so.. it sounds like I'll be able to get her up and running for about $600 more. $1500 seems like a good deal for a 92k, '90 wrangler? Oh, and it's 6 cylander.
No that won't work, the kit doesn't have a slave cylinder in it. That kit is for replacing a worn out clutch.

edit.. All though it would not be a bad idea to have that done at the same time as the tranny's out so replace everything that requires the tranny to drop while your in it.
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Unread 05-11-2007, 10:00 PM   #12
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No that won't work, the kit doesn't have a slave cylinder in it.
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Kit Includes:

1. Pressure Plate
2. Clutch Disc (Friction Plate)
3. Throwout Bearing w Internal Slave Cylinder
4. Pilot Bearing
5. Alignment Tool
Slave Cylinder is inculded......
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Unread 05-11-2007, 11:07 PM   #13
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If you are remotely mechanically inclined, you should be able to do both of these projects in a good day. I have done mine all alone (I bought a $60 transmission jack from Harbour Freight to make it possible) with no problems. The starter has to be removed anyway when you unbolt the bellhousing to remove the tranny, so that job will be a no-brainer. If you get a Chiltons manual at your local auto parts store and thoroughly read the section the night before, looking as you go at the parts of the Jeep that the instructions are covering, it goes pretty smooth. I have had my tranny off a few times in the last year for various issues, and I was a complete novice regarding auto mechanics when I bought my '90 Islander 2 years ago. By the 3rd time I removed the tranny (for a slave cylinder replacement), I could go from walking into the garage to tranny on the floor in about 35 minutes with no help.

In other words, go for it. It is an extremely gratifying feeling to go out and test drive your Jeep after spending an afternoon under the hood. Besides, wrenching is going to become a regular part of your life now that you are a Jeep owner.
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Unread 05-12-2007, 06:31 PM   #14
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Always remember.... when somebody says "All it needs is...." That means add a few things to the list. Nobody selling a vehicle will every tell you what is totally wrong with it.
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Unread 05-12-2007, 08:49 PM   #15
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that clutch city kit is what's in my jeep. no problems so far....

i'd expect to pay a shop less than $400 in labor to have all that fixed at a local shop here. that's with YOU supplying the parts. if you have a jeep specialist (not the stealership) in your area, now would be a good time to establish a relationship with them. often times it's worth the extra money to pay them for parts that way IF you have a failure down the road, you may have some sort of warranty with that shop.... something to keep in mind.
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