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Unread 06-02-2010, 12:41 PM   #1
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How many pounds can I pull and not break anything

I tried a search b4 this post. I have a few trucks that weigh about 10,000 lbs empty. I usually park them on hard sand, although the sand here is getting a little soft where I have to park them and I was wondering if I used my Yj to pull one to harder ground to go out on a job if I may break something. I am talkng about pulling the 10k pound truck mayby 30 feet to harder ground.

Also should I use 4L or 4H. I was thinking 4L.

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Unread 06-02-2010, 12:52 PM   #2
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I don't think it will be a problem for 30 feet. 4 LO is a must.
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Unread 06-02-2010, 01:03 PM   #3
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Whatever you do - don't try to pull them while going in reverse in 4wd in your Jeep if they are somewhat stuck.

Your HPD30 ring gear may not do so well since you could overstress it while going in reverse under heavy load.
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Unread 06-02-2010, 01:27 PM   #4
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Whatever you do - don't try to pull them while going in reverse in 4wd in your Jeep if they are somewhat stuck.

Your HPD30 ring gear may not do so well since you could overstress it while going in reverse under heavy load.

Thank Joe,

I have my trucks backed in just in case I have to pull them out. Since I may need to take one out at night I will be alone. I know better to spin my tires on the truck if I get stuck.

So you think that I will not have a problem and will not break anything if I pull a 10k pound truck out in 4L?
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Unread 06-02-2010, 01:35 PM   #5
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If it's not stuck, and your not going to be pulling it down hill with nobody in it you'll probably be okay going forward.

Being they are on packed sand, it's going to be touchy not to dig yourself in while trying to get them going. I'd probably try it if the circumstances were right.
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Unread 06-02-2010, 01:40 PM   #6
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Ok, Yes if my tires start to spin on my Yj I will have to get someone in the truck to assist me while the truck is in gear. Problem is finding someone at night.

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Unread 06-02-2010, 01:45 PM   #7
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Problem is finding someone at night.
You could try hitting up the local bar & offer somebody a free drink if they'd assist ya'. j/k

Is the location kind of out in the sticks?
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FWIW, I pulled an old (60 something I think) Jeep Gladiator that was hooked up to a 12' trailer loaded with a 1950's Ford tractor a couple of weeks back. I was in 4LO running about 2500-3000 rpm's going maybe 5-10 mph. I pulled him for 2 miles (approx) 'til we got to a dwnhill slope in the road and he could get his beast running again (he said it had a bad sending unit??). I have no idea the total weight, but I just took it easy and slow using only my tow strap. I was pretty proud of the old girl. Wife said I sounded like I was bragging about one of my kids after a good ball game If it matters she's a 4.0 w/ 5 spd. It did not seem to cause any damage (so far)
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Unread 06-02-2010, 01:48 PM   #9
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So are you pulling them (rather than just driving the trucks under their own power) for any particular reason? Are the trucks stuck, or are you asking just in case? If they are stuck in sand and you think the YJ will pull them out I think you are dreaming. At the very least you would need someone in the truck to help assist and man the brakes in case you actually do get it to move.

Also, none of this gets into how you are actually going to hook up to the truck to pull it. If the tube bumpers listed in your profile is correct you will need to search for a better place to strap to.
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So are you pulling them (rather than just driving the trucks under their own power) for any particular reason? Are the trucks stuck, or are you asking just in case? If they are stuck in sand and you think the YJ will pull them out I think you are dreaming. At the very least you would need someone in the truck to help assist and man the brakes in case you actually do get it to move.

Also, none of this gets into how you are actually going to hook up to the truck to pull it. If the tube bumpers listed in your profile is correct you will need to search for a better place to strap to.

My plan was to hook up to my ball hitch.
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Unread 06-02-2010, 02:48 PM   #11
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Thats a negative ghost rider. I'm 1000% sure your receiver hitch is not rated for pulling 10000 lbs of stuck truck anywhere. Your entire bumper (and possibly your rear frame crossmember) will probably not stay attached to the Jeep.
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Unread 06-02-2010, 03:38 PM   #12
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Thats a negative ghost rider. I'm 1000% sure your receiver hitch is not rated for pulling 10000 lbs of stuck truck anywhere. Your entire bumper (and possibly your rear frame crossmember) will probably not stay attached to the Jeep.
Dont rely on the hitch on your Wrangler for that. It will def exceed the tow rating for it.
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Unread 06-02-2010, 05:04 PM   #13
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Thats a negative ghost rider. I'm 1000% sure your receiver hitch is not rated for pulling 10000 lbs of stuck truck anywhere. Your entire bumper (and possibly your rear frame crossmember) will probably not stay attached to the Jeep.

Ohhh, I see.

I do not want to pull the crossmember out as you mention. I know that my ball is only rated at 2k or so. I am not towing, only pulling. I know that the hitch receiver is pretty thick steel and should handle the load. Or am I wrong? My original concern was for my tranny and other drive line parts.

I never thought about the crossmamber What can I do to my crossmember to increase its' strength?

Others with a hook attached to the crossmember are they better rated?
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Unread 06-02-2010, 05:07 PM   #14
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Baaagh... Pull away. As long as the truck being pulled isnt stuck.
I have pulled on motor homes with trailers attached and a jeep riding on the trailer. Pulled those piles of **** all over the lake bed.

What's the worst that could happen?


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Does the truck you are pulling run and have power to the wheels?
If so.... I wouldn't think twice about hooking up to it.

Even if it inst running, I'd pull on it, but i guess that is just me.

At KOH last year i was trying to no avail to snatch a full size flat bed truck from the sand. I was yanking the HELL out of that thing. Didn't get it out, but it wasn't for lack of trying
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