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post #16 of 35 Old 07-09-2013, 05:12 AM
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your drag link cant be over the top of the tie rod. if you shorten the pitman then you will loose steering radius.


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post #17 of 35 Old 07-09-2013, 06:03 AM
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Are you talking about my setup? Or his because he is SUA?

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post #18 of 35 Old 07-09-2013, 08:11 AM
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OP I really can not tell from the pictures, are you still running the inverted y setup?
From what I can see a cross over bracket should solve you problem.
I have my front axle pushed foward around 2 inches with cross over steering and have no problems.

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OP I really can not tell from the pictures, are you still running the inverted y setup?
From what I can see a cross over bracket should solve you problem.
I have my front axle pushed foward around 2 inches with cross over steering and have no problems.
Do you have any photos of your steering that you can post? CAn you tell me a little more about the cross over bracket? Thanks!

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Sorry I totally forgot about this.. I'll snap some pictures in 30 min or so

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post #21 of 35 Old 07-15-2013, 05:13 PM
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I used the jb4x4 bracket and it's worked great
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The jb bracket would def b hte way to go in ur situation. I use one as well and it works great. Have u driven it much since u put those springs on? I no they r nice custom made springs but im counting 12 leaves in ur front spring packs. That seems like a lot of leaves to me, does it ride very stif or nice n soft? I would have to think they r pretty stiff. U might want to look into a pitman arm that doesn't stick out as far toward ur axle as our stock yj arm does. One that is slightly short would b the ticket for u, look at Louie's build tread n see what he did, he tried a few before dining the right one. I think the same one would work perfect for u tho, I think it was from a grand cherokee. Also I'm not talking about the distance downward in which is hangs but instead how far is goes straight back toward ur firewall or the distance between the two holes in ur pitman arm. If that makes ne sense lol
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Do you have any photos of your steering that you can post? CAn you tell me a little more about the cross over bracket? Thanks!
Sorry I am running a Dana 44 with flat tops.
Pictures of my steering would not help you.
There are alot of different manufatures of the bracket that would move your steering up and separate the drag line from the tie rod.
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Well looks like my gearbox is shot so i'm in the process of rebuilding a tj box and tapping it for hydro assist. I also got a gearbox bracket that moves the gearbox forward an inch. Between the 2 this should hopefully fix my problems.

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How do you know it's shot? Did you try tightening it?

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post #26 of 35 Old 07-15-2013, 11:40 PM Thread Starter
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How do you know it's shot? Did you try tightening it?
Its leaking fluid out if the sector shaft really bad and it hardly turns right anymore.

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With most lifted YJs using stock steering you will have some slop in the steering as you transition from side to side. As the ball joints wear the tie-rod will rotate up and down as you steer left and right. The crossover setup takes care of that.

As for the question posted about the number of leaves in the pack. Those are probably going to be some of the best riding springs ever installed on a YJ. More leaves at a lower springs rate.
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The jb bracket would def b hte way to go in ur situation. I use one as well and it works great. Have u driven it much since u put those springs on? I no they r nice custom made springs but im counting 12 leaves in ur front spring packs. That seems like a lot of leaves to me, does it ride very stif or nice n soft? I would have to think they r pretty stiff. U might want to look into a pitman arm that doesn't stick out as far toward ur axle as our stock yj arm does. One that is slightly short would b the ticket for u, look at Louie's build tread n see what he did, he tried a few before dining the right one. I think the same one would work perfect for u tho, I think it was from a grand cherokee. Also I'm not talking about the distance downward in which is hangs but instead how far is goes straight back toward ur firewall or the distance between the two holes in ur pitman arm. If that makes ne sense lol
Hello and yes my springs are custom made from Deaver. They are actually 13 leafs in each pack. These springs ride like an air suspension yet flex insanely well. We had them built 6" longer than oem yj springs. These are far from riding stiff. Deaver custom built them to the weight of my vehicle and all my armor. They weren't cheap but they will last forever.

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Hello and yes my springs are custom made from Deaver. They are actually 13 leafs in each pack. These springs ride like an air suspension yet flex insanely well. We had them built 6" longer than oem yj springs. These are far from riding stiff. Deaver custom built them to the weight of my vehicle and all my armor. They weren't cheap but they will last forever.
Oh I no deavers r nice that y I was wondering. I assume length and the amount of lift u wanted played a role in their decision on that. Do they come with a nice warranty as well?
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I'm betting that if you start your jeep, get out and watching your tie rod and steering box while you wiggle your steering box back and forth that your frame moves before your wheels do. It will seem that your shackles or leafs are pivoting. I'm having to put a track bar on my buddies YJ to fix the same issue.

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