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Old 08-09-2009, 09:44 PM   #91
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i'm making a snorkel like the orignal one! it looks crazyyy good! i've been looking for a really nice one, and hell, i ofund it! thanks dudeee!

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Old 08-09-2009, 09:48 PM   #92
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ok guys,,ive just been driveing in a down pour of rain for almost 3 hrs and all i can say is the new snorkel and air box are definitly better than stock..im saying this because when all the cool rain air hits the throttle body when i floor it ,it is superior to the stock air box as i can feel quite a bit more power ans smoothness..when its hot and normal i didnt feel no diffrence,but in the rain..wow,its like a race jeep,haha..
in a minute im gonna take the filter out to see if any water gets in there at all..
im sure that it isnt as i made a 1/2-5/8 lip inside the top where the pipe meets the tubeing and i cant see it going up hill..but the fast flow of air when cruiseing may get in a little..i will see soon.
as for the aftermarket snorkels they almost have to get more water in them than the one i made..if i need to explain this further just ask and i will get into more detail to make ya understand what i did after seeing and looking at what arb snorkel does to get the water out..if it even works..id like to know who has a aftermarket snorkel and if after a rain storm is there snorkel tube perfectly dry?
The one I made to copy his design gets a little wet but nothing major. This is the first time my air filter has been clean for more than a month since I got my Jeep. Almost makes me want to drop some coin on a K&N now that it would be protected.
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Old 08-10-2009, 07:31 AM   #93
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i like k&n for years and years,but the stock air filter flows real good when its getting more air than it needs also..i will try a k&n sometime this year for the heck of it..i drug my snorkel thru so much crap and trees yesterday that its all scratched up and looking abused,haha...
even if you got some mist of water in the snorkel it would just give it more grunt in my opinion..long as its hitting the filter first to break down the molocules...
there used to be water injection back in the day...
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:17 AM   #94
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Just to let everyone know I have pulled mine apart twice after driving in the rain and due to the ARB top design I have found no water at all in the system. Also the way the flex tubing is placed the water would collect there first. Then if you collected that much water to actually bypass that area you would have to fill the volume of the airbox to the level of the exit tube to the TB. I'm guessing but I think you would have to take in about 4 gallons of water, not going to happen...
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:45 AM   #95
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Just to let everyone know I have pulled mine apart twice after driving in the rain and due to the ARB top design I have found no water at all in the system. Also the way the flex tubing is placed the water would collect there first. Then if you collected that much water to actually bypass that area you would have to fill the volume of the airbox to the level of the exit tube to the TB. I'm guessing but I think you would have to take in about 4 gallons of water, not going to happen...

i agree..as with my homemade one,id have to take in a few gallons for it to reach my filter, as water seeks its own level..
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Old 08-10-2009, 10:24 AM   #96
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I finally got mine done to the point that it is functional(I still need to pull it back off and paint it).
I've only driven in the rain one time, but there was verry minimal water that made it to the air box(probably only a few drops worth of moisture). and as already mentioned, I think you'd have to almost fill the air box to cause a problem.
another advantage that I noticed was how clean the filter is staying. I was on some really dusty trails this weekned, that would normally left me with a verry dirty filter, and when I got back home, the filter was still spotless.

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Old 08-10-2009, 03:07 PM   #97
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nothing wrong with that muddy...the top turned out nice,kinda looks more like the arb top..very cool..will look great when it gets some paint,john
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:55 PM   #98
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making that top was a little tricky, it's all one piece of sheet metal. I cut it out, bent it into shape, and then only had two seams to weld. here's a pic of the cardboard template I made, and another pic looking down on the top(notice that I changed the origional design a bit). oh, and the aluminum screen is just temporary untill I can pick up some expanded steel and weld it in.

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Old 08-10-2009, 08:07 PM   #99
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:40 PM   #100
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Muddy I like the top just keep an eye out for water though(rain). I think the reason mine stays dry is the arb top, because it sheds the water to the outside of the pipe.
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Old 11-13-2009, 01:01 PM   #101
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No b/c he will hook it below the air filter on the stock air box. what accumulates will drain out the box.
If rain which runs down the snorkle drains through the airbox below the intake... What's the point of the snorkle? If water can drain out the air box can't it get IN as well in deep water?
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Old 11-13-2009, 01:15 PM   #102
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If rain which runs down the snorkle drains through the airbox below the intake... What's the point of the snorkle? If water can drain out the air box can't it get IN as well in deep water?
I'm not sure what everyone else is doing about this, but here's what I'm going to do.
have you ever seen the bottom side of an ATV air box? they have a little one way valve(some are a diaphram/flapper type, others resemble the cowl vent drain tube on YJ's), that will allow water to drain out, but will not let it come in. I'm still looking for one, but I plan to put one in the bottom of my air box to let rain water drain out.
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:52 PM   #103
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hey i really like what you did with the snorkel but was wondering how you hooked it up to the carb. i have 1988 yj jeep wrangler 4.2 engine some pics would help thanks

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Old 01-15-2010, 04:54 AM   #104
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I think your 441.4 CFM figure is a little much.
acording to the cfm formula found here,
Classic Inlines CFM Calcs and Volumetric Efficiency
the 2.5L engine only draws in about 221.9 cfm @ 5000rpm.

you have to remember that because these are 4 stroke engines, they require 2 revolutions to draw in their full displacement volume.
i totally agree with muddy. i used to be a chevy hot rod buff and for a 5.0 305 sbc stock with a quadrajunk carb they were only pulling around 500 cfm.
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Old 01-15-2010, 08:16 AM   #105
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i like the arb top. the only downside to it is paying for the name
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