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Unread 05-12-2013, 07:51 AM   #166
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yup just a civie. My biggest regret in life is not joining the Navy. I was all set to go, minus the last piece of paper and swearing in, and about a month before that would have happened, I found out I was having a baby. She didn't want to come with me and I didn't want to miss out on the pregnancy/birth of my child so I postponed it. And things just kept coming up and it never happened.

I just google maps it...about 9 hours. Not a helluva bad drive. Why, whats up?

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Oh that's kind of a drive then, we are wheeling camping there 28/29/30 of June. I am only 4.5 hrs from there. If you where closer I was going to invite you!

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Unread 05-12-2013, 10:57 AM   #167
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Oh that's kind of a drive then, we are wheeling camping there 28/29/30 of June. I am only 4.5 hrs from there. If you where closer I was going to invite you!
I mapped your home town, whoops!
Google maps says I'm 5 hours and 51 minutes away from Naches, WA.....
That's an easy drive.

If I can get my junk reliable by then (I want to be sure it can handle 6 hours of continuous driving- fluid changes, fix my OD issue,get my 8.8 in so I don't blow my sh*t up lol, etc, etc, etc,) then I'll totally make that.

I'd love to hook up with ya and go wheel!
Thanks for the invite. Keep me posted on it, and as it gets closer to that date, I'll let you know if I'll be making it or not. I'm crossing my fingers that I can.

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Unread 05-12-2013, 05:18 PM   #168
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I mapped your home town, whoops!
Google maps says I'm 5 hours and 51 minutes away from Naches, WA.....
That's an easy drive.

If I can get my junk reliable by then (I want to be sure it can handle 6 hours of continuous driving- fluid changes, fix my OD issue,get my 8.8 in so I don't blow my sh*t up lol, etc, etc, etc,) then I'll totally make that.

I'd love to hook up with ya and go wheel!
Thanks for the invite. Keep me posted on it, and as it gets closer to that date, I'll let you know if I'll be making it or not. I'm crossing my fingers that I can.

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For sure, this will be my first time to naches I was checking out vids of it on YouTube looks like a good time! I just figured I would ask since its not all that far from Idaho......
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Unread 05-14-2013, 08:17 PM   #169
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For sure, this will be my first time to naches I was checking out vids of it on YouTube looks like a good time! I just figured I would ask since its not all that far from Idaho......
Sounds good bro!
I'll keep you posted about where I'm at with it.

So Sunday I went out to a new trail. The trail was AMAZING with a ton of really fun obstacles. Unfortunately I overheated before getting to do any of the really fun stuff. I decided just to park my rig and not risk breaking something in the heat and I rode shotgun with my buddy in his JKU. Since I helped pretty much do everything to his rig, I figure I'd share some pics here.

I have since bought the parts to fix my fan which should solve the overheating issue.

Pics!









So even though I didn't get to beat on my junk it was still an awesome day! Learning that trail and having an experienced guide to walk us through the obstacles was well worth it.

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Unread 05-14-2013, 08:32 PM   #170
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Took the Jeep out to play on the rocks for a bit today and to shoot some guns and bows and sh*t.
Had a nice passenger today






And some more



And some more pics...





And Justin taking the same line. My extra few inches of clearance over his set up made a difference here. He dragged his belly a few times...



So tomorrow I'll be tackling the new fan controls. I threw a bigger fuse in my current set up and the fan has seemed to have been working the last two days. I even drove by a radiator shop and had the guy check everything out. He suggested just getting a temp control relay so I can adjust when the fan kicks on. I picked one up at the parts store for $29.00 and will be getting it put in tomorrow. I'll keep in controlling the fan "high" setting and I'll run a toggle to the cab for "low" so I can just turn it on low, and keep it on low while out playing. The relay will then kick it up into high if it still manages to get too hot. Not nearly as eloquent as the volvo relay set up, but simple and effective.

All for now.

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Unread 05-15-2013, 07:47 PM   #171
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Got my Taurus fan sorted out today. I got rid of the old relay and replaced it with one with an adjustable temperature control.

Old one;


New one


I don't think the wiring could have been any simpler. I simply attached at hot (+) wire to one terminal, the fan's hot (+) to the second terminal followed by an inline, 30amp fuse, and the fan's ground (-) to a ground bolt and then stuck the temp probe into the radiator fins. That's it. I ran the Jeep and everything worked perfect!

For insurance, to make sure that I have some way to make everything work out on the trail in the event of failure of some kind, I wired in a hard switch to the cab and connected it to the fan's low setting terminal on the pig tail. I simply ran a hot to the switch, jumped from the switch to an inline fuse, and then to the fan hot. It uses the same ground as the relay so it was literally just one wire.

The switch put in right next to my winch controls. I used an old school toggle switch with a the red safety cover. Looks kind of cool haha!


And with that, I'm hoping I solved my overheating problem!

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Unread 05-16-2013, 07:03 PM   #172
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I hope you're going to solve that wiring issue too lol.
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Unread 05-16-2013, 10:06 PM   #173
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I hope you're going to solve that wiring issue too lol.
What wiring issue? I'm totally new at wiring so if something looks horribly wrong hows about you share with the whole class?

Non of it is loomed yet but I used all crimp connectors and taped them all. I was going to solder it but couldn't find my iron.

Am I missing something? Other.than the loose wires I just added everything is nice and clean.and either bundles or loomed.

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Unread 05-16-2013, 10:50 PM   #174
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What wiring issue? I'm totally new at wiring so if something looks horribly wrong hows about you share with the whole class?

Non of it is loomed yet but I used all crimp connectors and taped them all. I was going to solder it but couldn't find my iron.

Am I missing something? Other.than the loose wires I just added everything is nice and clean.and either bundles or loomed.

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Yes, I was talking about the loose wiring. It was more sarcasm than anything.
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Unread 05-17-2013, 02:33 AM   #175
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Yes, I was talking about the loose wiring. It was more sarcasm than anything.
Ah gotcha.
I just need to buy more loom is all and tidy it up.

So tonight, I ran into more problems. Drove the Jeep all day with no problems. I parked it for about four hours and then jumped in to head out to a movie. I immediately noticed that my speedo wasn't working and my voltage seemed low; it usually lives right around 14 volts and it was barely topping 12.

Over the course of about 8-10 miles I watched the voltage drop all the way to 8 (buried needle on that side of the gauge.) By the time I pulled into the theater my headlights were dimmed beyond useless and my stereo lost power.

Crap.

So after the movie I popped the hood to investigate.I found a blown 15 amp fuse in the block that I tied into earlier this week for my new taurus fan. All I had left in my fuse pack were 30 amps so I threw one in and the alternator sprang back to life and I was back up to 14 volts.
Good deal.

Problem is, now my speedo is all weird. It's sluggish to respond to vehicle speed. It takes its sweet time getting up to speed, and returns to 0 just as slow. What the hell? It wasn't doing this before tonight...

Thoughts? Solutions?

I'll be reworking my fan wiring tomorrow and tapping in somewhere else. I don't want to risk this again.

For now I'm going to bed, frustrated and a bit overwhelmed.

Cheers all.


Edit: Just in case anyone has any ideas, here's a pic of the old relay and the wire's coming out of it...


The bottom right three wires; the red, the yellow, and the black were all power wires. I tested each of them and both the red and the black were always hot and the yellow was ignition only hot (the Jeep had to have the key turned for it to get power.) So when i wired things up I used the red wire for the in cab switch that I installed, and used the yellow wire for the fan relay. It made sense at the time, but after further investigation I found that the yellow wire eventually leads to a fuse block and is tied to a 4amp fuse in the block that gave me problems tonight. Probably not the best place to wire a fan that draws 80amps when it kicks on. :

I'll probably just "T" off the red wire tomorrow for the relay hot and just terminate the yellow wire.
After some googling, I still can't figure out what is now f*cked up in my speedo.. :
Now time for bed.
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Unread 05-17-2013, 06:16 AM   #176
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Solutions- maybe go back to a mechanical fan. JK, I do like the simplicity/reliability of mine though

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Unread 05-17-2013, 07:46 AM   #177
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For your fan power run it to the battery with an inline fuse. No circuits on the jeep can handle the fan being piggybacked onto.


As far as trigger wires through a relay. Those can be powered from almost anything you want. They draw MINIMAL power.
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Unread 05-17-2013, 11:44 AM   #178
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Sparrow, do you have a soft top? If so tie you're fan into the rear wiper circuit. It's fused 20amps, both my fans together peak at 18 amps for about a second upon startup then run at 8 amps.

I bet you fan peaks at maybe 14 amps and runs at 4-6amps. Use a multi meter and check your fans amperage.
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Unread 05-17-2013, 12:21 PM   #179
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Solutions- maybe go back to a mechanical fan. JK, I do like the simplicity/reliability of mine though

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Mine never had a mechanical fan. Not since I've had it anyways. I just changed from one weak as$ electric fan to the taurus fan.

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For your fan power run it to the battery with an inline fuse. No circuits on the jeep can handle the fan being piggybacked onto.

As far as trigger wires through a relay. Those can be powered from almost anything you want. They draw MINIMAL power.
Ok. I didn't think I was "piggybacking" into a different circuit. Since that yellow wire went to the old relay, I figured it could still be used to power the new relay. It ended up being piggybacked lol, but it didn't look that way when I started.

I'll be going with what you suggest for the fan.

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Sparrow, do you have a soft top? If so tie you're fan into the rear wiper circuit. It's fused 20amps, both my fans together peak at 18 amps for about a second upon startup then run at 8 amps.

I bet you fan peaks at maybe 14 amps and runs at 4-6amps. Use a multi meter and check your fans amperage.
I'll check into that! Thanks bro.
I'm still confused as to why my speedo got all stupid on me now though.

Sigh.
What else can I get hit with right now?

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Unread 05-17-2013, 02:24 PM   #180
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Mine never had a mechanical fan. Not since I've had it anyways. I just changed from one weak as$ electric fan to the taurus fan.

Ok. I didn't think I was "piggybacking" into a different circuit. Since that yellow wire went to the old relay, I figured it could still be used to power the new relay. It ended up being piggybacked lol, but it didn't look that way when I started.

I'll be going with what you suggest for the fan.

I'll check into that! Thanks bro.
I'm still confused as to why my speedo got all stupid on me now though.

Sigh.
What else can I get hit with right now?

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Don't jinx your self lol. Maybe try visually inspecting your Speedo gear????
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