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Unread 11-28-2011, 05:55 PM   #1
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Want to put on some hockey Pucks ( no idea if I'm spelling that right!) in my 95 jeep wrangler yj! I wanna know how much cash it's gonna take, and what im gonna need for parts!

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Unread 11-28-2011, 06:13 PM   #2
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Don't do actual hockey pucks, they won't last. You can get a quality body lift for around $100. I went with the Prothane 1" body lift because it comes with replacement sleeves. Some of the others you will have to reuse the stock sleeves and they are a pain to separate them from the stock bushings.

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http://www.amazon.com/Prothane-1-113-BL-Black-Lift-Mount/dp/B003AVSEDG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1322529206&sr=8-2
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Unread 11-28-2011, 06:14 PM   #3
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Just spend the $100 or so on a quality body lift that has everything in it that you will need.
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Unread 11-28-2011, 06:55 PM   #4
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Rollerblade or skateboard wheels. They are probably made from better materials then what you can buy in a kit. Think of the abuse they take.
Im using skateboard wheels and grade 8 bolts. Check Ebay for a pack of wheels without bearings. I think I got 12 wheels for 15 dollars new
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Unread 11-28-2011, 07:17 PM   #5
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Rollerblade or skateboard wheels. They are probably made from better materials then what you can buy in a kit. Think of the abuse they take.
Im using skateboard wheels and grade 8 bolts. Check Ebay for a pack of wheels without bearings. I think I got 12 wheels for 15 dollars new
I don't know squat about skateboard wheels, but I know a little about metallurgy. There are definitely bolts that would be worse than a grade 8, but grade 5 bolts would be better for this application. In a "sheer" joint (like a bumper bolt or a receiver hitch) a grade 8 bolt is ideal. In a flex joint (like a Jeep's body mounts, or an engine mount) where movement is allowed but limited, a better choice is a grade 5 bolt. A grade 8 bolt will pretty much resist forces until it breaks. A grade 5 bolt will bend a bit and absorb energy long before they actually break.

What all this means is that with an equal amount of force applied, a grade 5 is less likely to break in a flex joint than a grade 8; however, in sheer, the opposite is true. It isn't about picking which one is stronger, it's about picking which one is more appropriate for the task at hand.
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Unread 11-28-2011, 07:32 PM   #6
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Don't do actual hockey pucks, they won't last. You can get a quality body lift for around $100. I went with the Prothane 1" body lift because it comes with replacement sleeves. Some of the others you will have to reuse the stock sleeves and they are a pain to separate them from the stock bushings.

Here's a link.

Video Link: http://www.amazon.com/Prothane-1-113-BL-Black-Lift-Mount/dp/B003AVSEDG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1322529206&sr=8-2
What if I want a 2" or 3" lift? Everywhere I look they are like 500$-800$ :/

Thanks for your input!
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Unread 11-28-2011, 07:33 PM   #7
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Rollerblade or skateboard wheels. They are probably made from better materials then what you can buy in a kit. Think of the abuse they take.
Im using skateboard wheels and grade 8 bolts. Check Ebay for a pack of wheels without bearings. I think I got 12 wheels for 15 dollars new
Good to know, thanks alot!
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Unread 11-28-2011, 07:36 PM   #8
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What if I want a 2" or 3" lift? Everywhere I look they are like 500$-800$ :/

Thanks for your input!
Not in a BL you dont
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Unread 11-28-2011, 07:37 PM   #9
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I don't know squat about skateboard wheels, but I know a little about metallurgy. There are definitely bolts that would be worse than a grade 8, but grade 5 bolts would be better for this application. In a "sheer" joint (like a bumper bolt or a receiver hitch) a grade 8 bolt is ideal. In a flex joint (like a Jeep's body mounts, or an engine mount) where movement is allowed but limited, a better choice is a grade 5 bolt. A grade 8 bolt will pretty much resist forces until it breaks. A grade 5 bolt will bend a bit and absorb energy long before they actually break.

What all this means is that with an equal amount of force applied, a grade 5 is less likely to break in a flex joint than a grade 8; however, in sheer, the opposite is true. It isn't about picking which one is stronger, it's about picking which one is more appropriate for the task at hand.
So far no problem maan
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Unread 11-28-2011, 07:39 PM   #10
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Not in a BL you dont
Ok I'm probably gonna sound like a noob right now, but what is BL?
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Unread 11-28-2011, 07:39 PM   #11
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What if I want a 2" or 3" lift? Everywhere I look they are like 500$-800$ :/

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$500-$800? Just google "YJ body lift". There are numerous 3" lifts for less than $100. You may just need to get new bolts that are long enough. When purchasing new bolts, make sure you get the right threads along with the correct grade. I'd also be cautious in using skate board wheels. Even though they may take alot of abuse, it is only with a 150lb person's weight spread between 4 wheels. A jeep is heavier and will be exposed to the elements and chemicals on the rd. just a thought.
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Unread 11-28-2011, 07:56 PM   #12
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$500-$800? Just google "YJ body lift". There are numerous 3" lifts for less than $100. You may just need to get new bolts that are long enough. When purchasing new bolts, make sure you get the right threads along with the correct grade. I'd also be cautious in using skate board wheels. Even though they may take alot of abuse, it is only with a 150lb person's weight spread between 4 wheels. A jeep is heavier and will be exposed to the elements and chemicals on the rd. just a thought.
It's a good thought tho! I probably won't go with the skateboard wheels anyways! Their may be 3" lifts but don't you have to get shocks, leaf springs, ext.?
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Unread 11-28-2011, 08:03 PM   #13
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It's a good thought tho! I probably won't go with the skateboard wheels anyways! Their may be 3" lifts but don't you have to get shocks, leaf springs, ext.?
Not for a body lift. You're thinking of a suspension lift.
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Unread 11-28-2011, 08:10 PM   #14
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Not for a body lift. You're thinking of a suspension lift.
O got cha! Is their a good web site that is really cheep that someone could recommend to me? It would be greatly appreciated !
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Ok I'm probably gonna sound like a noob right now, but what is BL?
Body lift
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