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Unread 06-15-2008, 07:11 AM   #31
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5, The 2 seat bolts have welded nuts in boxed in channel. There should be a 1"drain hole just behind the seat, If you pop that out you'll be in that channel. You could spray PB in that way or use a small torch and heat the bolt heads then douse it with PB while still warm. Use Caution and have a fire extigusher handy just in case! Use anti seize on the bolts when you reinstall.
Here's what I'm dealing with:

2 bolts are "standard" (pics a little 'flash happy', but you get the idea)

Those should come out no problem. The others did (on passenger side).

And 2 bolts are like this:



Now, I can get underneath the two that are capped, but as you have indicated some bolts have welded nuts. And, since I am definitely paranoid and have no welder, I don't want to get myself in a bind that I can't get out of.

Here is a pic of the nut from underneath:


There's got to be a 'trick' and I MUST be making this more difficult than it needs to be.

We'll call all this "Research before I screw it up."

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Unread 06-15-2008, 07:43 AM   #32
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The ones that hang down and are accessable I heated and sprayed them with PB, let them cool and then tried to turn it. The heat, cool cycle helps draw the PB into the threads. You should try to get those threads hanging down as clean as possible. (Dremel with a wire wheel).
The ones in the channel just spray with PB as best as possible, let them soak a day and then try. The welded nuts hung right in there on mine. Unless you have alot of rust they should be OK.
If you do get them to loosen but then they get tight, tighten them back up and loosen while spraying PB in the threads. It'll help flush the rust off the bolt and save the threads. Replace any rusty bolts with grade 5 or 8 bolts from Tractor Supply. $3.88 a lb by me.
Those other 2 screws are just wire clamps for the seat belt warning buzzer. I wouldn't worry about getting those out.
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Unread 06-17-2008, 03:31 PM   #33
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What about for the bottom of the truck on the chassis and bottom of the tub? anyone done a herculiner there?
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Unread 06-18-2008, 05:25 AM   #34
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What about for the bottom of the truck on the chassis and bottom of the tub? anyone done a herculiner there?
Most just POR15 the frame/underside and just paint it.
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Unread 06-25-2008, 07:46 PM   #35
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I took the long way round with a short cut..............I only did the foot well areas but took out the seats for ease of access. I left the roll bar in. Anyway, I prepped the target surfaces with a wire brush and sanding blocks. I then plugged the various holes and masked what needed to be. I then did 2 coat sof POR 15 per instructions. Once "cured" I scuffed up the POR and applied the Herc (2 coats). 3 days total project but, with some rust starting to show in the wells the POR should stop that once and for all. Was going to do the underside but don't see the need...........
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Unread 06-27-2008, 10:43 AM   #36
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I am not sure if anyone has done this, yet. I tried reading through this thread real quick. But anyways, what I did to add to this write-up was I sprayed a can of Clear coat the day after everything had dried up. I read somewhere about trying to keep the Herculiner looking black versus the faded gray Color and that's what someone had recommended. I have had it on for about a 2 months so far and it has still kept it's color. But, the dust and dirt doesn't help .

And a few days ago I removed the step and the flares on the side of the YJ. And plugged up the holes, sanded, and prepped the rocker panel area and Herculined it. I thought about getting the rocker panels, but I figured I would save myself some money and use the little of Herculiner I had left over.

Have fun with this project
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Unread 06-27-2008, 09:55 PM   #37
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im going to be doing this mod on my jeep, quick question tho, i was thinking about doing it on the underside of the body as well, which means i will be removing the body from the frame, do you guys think this would be a good idea? i figured it would help prevent rust and would make for a nicer look.
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Unread 06-27-2008, 10:09 PM   #38
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would be good, lots of work though, and probably take another gallon of herculiner
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Unread 06-27-2008, 10:29 PM   #39
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i dontmind the extra cost, i just want to avoid having to put new floor pans in the jeep in the future, and preventing any other rust. does this have to be rolled on or can it be sprayed also?
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Unread 06-28-2008, 06:27 AM   #40
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im going to be doing this mod on my jeep, quick question tho, i was thinking about doing it on the underside of the body as well, which means i will be removing the body from the frame, do you guys think this would be a good idea? i figured it would help prevent rust and would make for a nicer look.
I would use POR-15 for the underside and a rattle can.

But, all I used was a rattle can of spray for underneath the tub.

Here are some pics of what I have herculnied.




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Unread 07-01-2008, 12:57 PM   #41
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is it possible to paint over the herculiner? the reason i ask is because i've seen people say it fades and i was planning on doing this to my jeep. although since the interior of mine is gray maybe if i do it black and it fades it won't look so bad.
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Unread 07-01-2008, 01:15 PM   #42
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Could I just sand the tub down or do I need to scrub it with acetone?
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Unread 07-01-2008, 01:35 PM   #43
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You really need to do all the prep work. Wash it out. Scrub it. Ruff it. Clean it. No short cuts. 1) It will make the painting go that much better, 2) It will make the finished job look that much better.
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Unread 07-01-2008, 05:54 PM   #44
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how to

newblue, just completed this and i followed the instructions you posted, turned out awesome, thanks for doing this, made me alot more comfortable with doing this and savedme quite a bit of cash. your ever in my area, ill buy you some beers.
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Unread 07-01-2008, 06:03 PM   #45
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I am having my tub media blasted and then primer etched. If I was using Herculiner for the underbody would you recommend doing the prep as you outlined? Or, would you just make sure it was wiped down as the primer in itself is made for adhesion.

Great write up!
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