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post #1 of 32 Old 04-25-2010, 05:03 PM Thread Starter
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help me get a smooth ride with a near perfect YJ

i'm almost done building and the jeep is doing great other then it's a spine crusher.

i've got a 8.8 in the back
35 inch mickeys
ARBs front and back.
smitty armor all around with the rear trimmed to allow the rear tires to stuff in.


like i said it's near perfect for me other then the ride sucks. i can put my entire 210 pounds on any corner and it doesn't move, like solid concrete. it flexes well on the trail but it's bone jaring even running 12 to 14 pounds in the those huge tires.

the bad news......4 inch rough country lift. it's not called smooth country for a reason. lol

what it's not.
it's not the bolt torque i ran them out to hardly touching and it's still to harsh.
i have no trac bars or sway bars.

i thought about buying some Emus or RE or other brand but will that really give me a nice ride?

there is also the thought of a SOA conversion

maybe a four link?


so what is my best bet for the money, i don't want to spend more then i need to but i don't want to waste time or money and want to do it right. also i don't want to raise the jeep at all, i did allot of cutting to fit those tires and to keep the COG down low.

what do i got to do so that i can still walk after going on a trail ride???


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post #2 of 32 Old 04-25-2010, 05:13 PM
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I heard of some people putting Emu shocks with the RC springs and it's fine.
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post #3 of 32 Old 04-25-2010, 05:16 PM
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Did you pull the tracbars? It helps.
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i had thought about taking all the shocks off and see if that makes it soft, if it really is only the shocks making the RC lift harsh i'll go out and buy some really nice ones and be done.


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I heard of some people putting Emu shocks with the RC springs and it's fine.

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Did you pull the tracbars? It helps.
no tracs or sways

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Do you still have the track bars and sway bar in?

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edited first post, no tracs, no sways shackle bolts hardly even on.
probably fine for most i have a bad back and need a much softer ride.

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post #8 of 32 Old 04-25-2010, 05:23 PM
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Well what shocks do you have? If they are stiff then any impact the tires hit will come straight through the body. Poly mounts will transmit more of the shock to your body. These are a few thing to think about.

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Well now that I think about it, would the OME work since it's meant for a 2.5 inch lift just fine?
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I ran the 2.2 performance shock that came with my 4" RC lift. After 10 months I blew out the pass front shock, changed all 4 to EMUs and the difference was night and day. MUCH nicer ride than the RC-supplied shocks.

The boomerang shackles have been torqued to about 45ftlbs since the lift went on, so the lift elements didn't change, just the shocks.

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35 inch mickeys


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i thought about buying some Emus or RE or other brand but will that really give me a nice ride?

there is also the thought of a SOA conversion

maybe a four link?
Mickey MTZs??? I'd like to hear how they do.

from best to least...
if $$$ were no object, then...
coilovers FTW
front coil/rear leaf SUA (different brand)
SOA
for best COG and least cost, BDS 3.5" or 5" with some nice shocks. (w/35s I'd go 5")



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post #12 of 32 Old 04-25-2010, 06:03 PM Thread Starter
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the mickey's:
i have the radials on a 10 inch rim, they are perfect street tires, almost no noise and ride great on the treat. on dry trails they are amazing, almost zero slip on even sandstone and air down they smooth out the ride a great deal.
the only downside was in the mud but that might be the 10 inch rims, they pushed badly in the mud and fill badly in the thick stuff. i really believe some skiping and tighter rims would cure that. can't say if i like them until i put some major miles on them and see if they hold up. right now they have 5000 miles on them and still look new.





coils would be best but i'd like to keep leafs just for that old school look.
that and the cost would be massive! my friends SOA sami floats across the roughest trail so i know that a leaf spring set up CAN be done right.

i guess i'm looking for some tricks to smooth it out or maybe convincing that a SOA would fit the bill.

surely someone out there has got a lifted SUA to ride smooth on the trail.


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Mickey MTZs??? I'd like to hear how they do.

from best to least...
if $$$ were no object, then...
coilovers FTW
front coil/rear leaf SUA (different brand)
SOA
for best COG and least cost, BDS 3.5" or 5" with some nice shocks. (w/35s I'd go 5")



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It's the shocks not the springs. Get some bilstein, fox, or ome shocks.

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since i like my height buying new shocks isn't a big deal.

i also thought about going with a 2 inch lift and a 2 body lift, thinking that the shorter spring lift would have more flex and a softer ride?

maybe 3 inch lift and a 1 inch body lift?

2 inch lift, 1 inch body and a 1 inch shackle lift?

i'm looking for the a very soft ride.

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since i like my height buying new shocks isn't a big deal.

i also thought about going with a 2 inch lift and a 2 body lift, thinking that the shorter spring lift would have more flex and a softer ride?

maybe 3 inch lift and a 1 inch body lift?

2 inch lift, 1 inch body and a 1 inch shackle lift?

i'm looking for the a very soft ride.
Like, BMW soft or something?

Just get new shocks and go from there.
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