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Unread 08-11-2011, 09:15 AM   #1
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Im currently in the process of swapping out my head gasket, should I swap out the head bolts too or use the old ones? I've called the local parts stores in my area and they don't carry em and can't even order em. I even called the dealership and they said that they were discontinued. Should I just install the old ones or keep looking for new ones?

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Unread 08-11-2011, 09:18 AM   #2
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Some are gonna say yeah and some are gonna say no. I don't think the jeep head bolts are "torque to yield" type. So I would just re-use them and carefully follow the torque method when you do it. Make sure all the threads are absolutely clean first.
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I've always re-used head bolts. Now if I had taken the head off a motor multiple times then I might consider but I probably do a head gasket once in the life of the motor. Of course re-using them is not the preferred method but I in my experience it's not a problem.
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I have lots of manuals for various vehicles and recall reading in one of them a specific mention of marking the bolts when they were reused and replacing after one re-use.

Of course if you can't get any new ones there your choice is made for you.
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Alright guys thanks for the help. Considering I cant find any new head bolts Im just going to resuse the old ones. I called a well known Engine Repair shop about an hour north of me and they said that considering they are not "stretch or torque to yield bolts" that I could reuse em.
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i was wondering the same thing. I pulled the head the other day to replace the gasket and took the head to a machine shop to have it checked. I was wondering what the torque specs on the bolts were. Is there any thing special I need to do?
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i was wondering the same thing. I pulled the head the other day to replace the gasket and took the head to a machine shop to have it checked. I was wondering what the torque specs on the bolts were. Is there any thing special I need to do?
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http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/y...12/index3.html
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Unread 08-12-2011, 02:55 PM   #8
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You can reuse head bolts if there still in good shape. However I know there is new head bolts to be had for the 258. There's several places that sell remanufactured 4.2's that have new head bolts, like ATK, jasper and golens. I would give Quadratec and 4wd hardware a call as well as collins brothers if you really want new.
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Unread 08-13-2011, 07:09 AM   #9
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You can order new ones online for $20.00 delivered.
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i did my 89 4.2 engine last winter,i got new head bolts from head bolts.com i think it was 45.00 with shipping
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I just reused the old ones after tapping the holes to clean em and dying the bolts to clean as well. I would of ordered new ones but the guys shop that im using only gave me a week. It sux not having a ur own garage ....lol
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Unread 08-14-2011, 06:26 AM   #12
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If the 4.2 is the same as the 4.0 in this regard, the manual says that you can re-use them ONCE and then you need to replace.

Again, if the 4.2 is the same/similar to the 4.2, the front drivers side head bolt will have a special torque condition - the bolt hole on the block goes into the water jacket and has a slightly lower torque value listed along with a cautionary note not to overtorque - you can strip the threads from that hole.

Get a tightening sequence and description - pull the head down in the right sequence in 3 to 4 stages to get a good & flat seal of the head to the block.
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