[xeastend]

Originally Posted by RavenCorax

if its the 3/4x16 you can use a ford 302 or mopar 318 wix 51515 or god forbid a fram ph8a
depending on how good your threads are on that metric m20 bs its close enough to match but i wont gurantee it

http://knizefamily.net/minimopar/oilfilters/index.html
http://knizefamily.net/minimopar/oil.../opinions.html

Why the negativity toward Fram??

[sitdwnandhngon]

Somebody told me as well that a certain brand of filter causes dry starts. It may have been fram but im not positive.

[pat8942]

Somebody told them Fram was bad so they believe it.
I use Fram all the time and I have used them for all my cars and trucks since 1967 and have never had any issues.
If someone tells me something is bad I expect them to back it up with facts and not because their buddy said so or they read it on the internet.

Originally Posted by xeastend

Why the negativity toward Fram??

[RavenCorax]

the two links i posted earlier show why fram is bad compared to other filters rubber gaskets and cardboard endplates vs silicone and metal in the turbo dodge/ shelby dodge circles their known as the orange death. ive lost 15 to 20 pounds of oil pressure using em replaced with a wix got it back ill never run a fram filter again. of ya and teflon is great for your frying pan but does not belong in a motor

[pat8942]

Like I said somebody told you or you read it on the Internet.
Those links are one mans opinion and his findings prove absolutely nothing except some filters are made different than others.
It's a personal choice what you use,it's like comparing a Rolex to a Timex the only real difference is it costs more to know what time it is with the Rolex.

Originally Posted by RavenCorax

the two links i posted earlier show why fram is bad compared to other filters rubber gaskets and cardboard endplates vs silicone and metal in the turbo dodge/ shelby dodge circles their known as the orange death. ive lost 15 to 20 pounds of oil pressure using em replaced with a wix got it back ill never run a fram filter again. of ya and teflon is great for your frying pan but does not belong in a motor

[doug_1994]

Originally Posted by CheapSunglasses

I'm going over this afternoon....I'll get the part number for you.

Did you get that brand/number?

Originally Posted by CheapSunglasses

You go into one of these big chain stores and most of the help you find is some wet behind the ears high school kid still wiping snot on his shirt sleeve.

Yup, and all they say is "whats the part number?", or "what year vehical?".


When I go to one for parts for my YJ, I gotta remember a few years, and different vehicals, depending on what I looking for!

[gatesy00tj]

actually, they are right. cut a wix filter in half and a fram in half. you will INSTANTLY see why you shouldn't use fram. they are cheap. now, to the old schoolers, they haven't always been cheap. the turn around started about 10-15 years ago when they decided to go primarily after the retail customers and forgot about wholesalers and garages. the fact is, if you got the Silver line of filters at napa (cheapest wix ones) and the fram you would still see a significant difference.

i'm not trying to play scare tactics here, but a friend of mine and a guy i worked with for a few years had a fram collapse on him while driving and came damn close to junkin the car c/ he thought he siezed the motor.

again, i dont mean to insult anyones intelligence or opinions, but just tryin to help out and perhaps add a little longevity to your vehicle.

[taylor4857]

so what part number# and what type??????

[RobsYJeep]

sounds like a "band-aid" fix, if you have a knock you might as well find the source before it ends up costing you a motor.

just my .02
cheers
Rob

[CheapSunglasses]

Originally Posted by doug_1994

Did you get that brand/number?




Yup, and all they say is "whats the part number?", or "what year vehical?".


When I go to one for parts for my YJ, I gotta remember a few years, and different vehicals, depending on what I looking for!

I'm still workin' on it....I went there yesterday afternoon and the guy I deal with wasn't there....It'll probably have to wait till Tuesday....Sorry!

[Cobra Jeep]

Originally Posted by CheapSunglasses

Was there a knock?....If so, is it quieter?

It sounded like a diesel before, and it sounded like one after. But I'm sure the fact that it has 240K on it has a little someting to do about it.
I use it because of the extra ammount of oil it lets you run, plus the extra filter surface. It surely cant hurt!