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Unread 08-29-2008, 08:41 AM   #1
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Has Anyone Heard of This?

I talked to a guy over at our local NAPA....It's one of the old stores that has been around forever (I hate the big chain stores)....The guy there has been turning wrenches for years and he gave me some advice I've never heard.

I'm chasing a knock in my engine and am about to drop the pan and do main/rod bearings and an oil pump....He tells me I'm wasting my money, and to try a different oil filter ....He's had Jeeps and say's that the 3985 filters have something inherint in their design that slows the oil and can cause a knock....He suggested replacing it with a longer filter (he gave me a Ford part#, but I can't remember) which has more capacity and better oil distribution.

He is dead sure this will help....He said he's had the same problem with his Jeep and it worked for him.

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Unread 08-29-2008, 08:54 AM   #2
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i have not... but am curious to hear about anyone else... and an outcome.
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Unread 08-29-2008, 08:57 AM   #3
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^^^

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My 4.0 has always made a ton of noise.

Do you know that part number, or can you get it?
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Unread 08-29-2008, 09:33 AM   #4
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This is an old trick to increase volume of oil for race cars, but ive never heard of any other benefit. Certainly not oil flow on a standard engine. I dont think it will help you, but the good thing is it only costs a few bucks to try.
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Unread 08-29-2008, 09:56 AM   #5
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^^^

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My 4.0 has always made a ton of noise.

Do you know that part number, or can you get it?
I'm going over this afternoon....I'll get the part number for you.
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Unread 08-29-2008, 10:22 AM   #6
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if its the 3/4x16 you can use a ford 302 or mopar 318 wix 51515 or god forbid a fram ph8a
depending on how good your threads are on that metric m20 bs its close enough to match but i wont gurantee it

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Unread 08-29-2008, 10:29 AM   #7
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old mechanics know there stuff, i would try it out and have him change it all for you.
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Unread 08-29-2008, 10:58 AM   #8
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old mechanics know there stuff, i would try it out and have him change it all for you.
That's why I love the old NAPA stores....You go into one of these big chain stores and most of the help you find is some wet behind the ears high school kid still wiping snot on his shirt sleeve.
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Unread 08-29-2008, 10:58 AM   #9
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If you have 3/4X16 thread you can use Motorcraft FL1A or FL299 which is about twice the size of the FL1A
The metric Motorcraft filter is FL306.
As MLJeeper said all a bigger filter will do is add more oil capacity because it's bigger but if you got a knock it ain't gonna fix it.
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if its the 3/4x16 you can use a ford 302 or mopar 318 wix 51515 or god forbid a fram ph8a
depending on how good your threads are on that metric m20 bs its close enough to match but i wont gurantee it

http://knizefamily.net/minimopar/oilfilters/index.html
http://knizefamily.net/minimopar/oil.../opinions.html
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Unread 08-29-2008, 11:11 AM   #10
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If you have 3/4X16 thread you can use Motorcraft FL1A or FL299 which is about twice the size of the FL1A
The metric Motorcraft filter is FL306.
As MLJeeper said all a bigger filter will do is add more oil capacity because it's bigger but if you got a knock it ain't gonna fix it.
What this NAPA guy is telling me, is that not only is the standard filter small, there is something in the way it allows the oil to flow properly....Hey, for $5 Bucks, I can't go wrong.
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Unread 08-29-2008, 12:03 PM   #11
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If all else fails you blew a hole 5 bucks so your not really out too much anywho.
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Unread 08-29-2008, 12:09 PM   #12
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Remember with the longer oil filter you will need another half quart of oil.
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Unread 08-29-2008, 04:32 PM   #13
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I run the bigger oil filter on my 4.0. I use a purealator pure one PL30001. Now instead of 6 quarts, it holds almost 7.
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Unread 08-29-2008, 04:38 PM   #14
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I run the bigger oil filter on my 4.0. I use a purealator pure one PL30001. Now instead of 6 quarts, it holds almost 7.
I run the same one and I usually put in anywhere from 6.5 to 6.75 quarts.
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Unread 08-29-2008, 04:49 PM   #15
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I run the bigger oil filter on my 4.0. I use a purealator pure one PL30001. Now instead of 6 quarts, it holds almost 7.
Was there a knock?....If so, is it quieter?
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