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Unread 02-22-2014, 11:37 PM   #61
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Hella E-code lamps if you want to have good lights, then make a new wiring harness for the lights with relays. You will be amazed at the light output.

HID's are junk, don't bother. LED is pricey, if you can afford it, then go for it, but the E-code lamps work great otherwise.

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Unread 02-26-2014, 07:09 AM   #62
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Hella E-code lamps if you want to have good lights, then make a new wiring harness for the lights with relays. You will be amazed at the light output.

HID's are junk, don't bother. LED is pricey, if you can afford it, then go for it, but the E-code lamps work great otherwise.

i did my bi-xenon retrofit for under 200.00










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Unread 02-26-2014, 09:15 AM   #63
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i did my bi-xenon retrofit for under 200.00
Those are upside down. The cut line should be at the top. I work for an automotive lighting company. I look at cut lines a lot.
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explain cut line, i am still trying to decide on headlamps, budget of aprox $250
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explain cut line, i am still trying to decide on headlamps, budget of aprox $250
Cibie 5x7 housings, high quality H4 bulbs, new relay wiring. Under $250, headlights and bulbs are simple to install, and the wiring is easy if you are familiar with it. Light output and pattern are fantastic. Email Daniel Stern at the links above. You'll be glad you did.
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Those are upside down. The cut line should be at the top. I work for an automotive lighting company. I look at cut lines a lot.
Then look a little closer, they are at the top they're just aimed down so that I'm not blinding people
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i did my bi-xenon retrofit for under 200.00
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i am still trying to decide on headlamps, budget of aprox $250
well look at that just get your stuff from here http://www.theretrofitsource.com/

and you already have a harness so you can just mod it to be bi-xenon

if you can do a ls swap you can do a projector retro.
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Then look a little closer, they are at the top they're just aimed down so that I'm not blinding people
Do you have the hi beams on in the second to last photo?
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I work for an automotive lighting company. I look at cut lines a lot.
Then you should have recognized that his lights are the right way up

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Then look a little closer, they are at the top they're just aimed down so that I'm not blinding people
They need to be ~100 feet out from your jeep, the top of the line, on low beam. That is the approximate threshold to work with, high enough to be fine, but not so high that they're a nuisance

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Personally, I'm going with LED for everything. I just don't want any weak points from retrofitted headlights or any of that, since I am not building my Jeep to drive it like a grandma
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They look a little better on my computer (Using my phone before), you can see a cut line in the above photo. It would be more horizontal if it was in car position and not on a desk.
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The problem with American DOT headlight pattern is it sucks! Cibie uses E code, Hella as well, just not as high quality lens. The Cibie will shoot the beam straight out and then up to the right with a distinct cutoff. Any headlight can throw a beam, especially the kind that blinds oncoming traffic. It is not the intensity, it is the direction and pattern that makes one better than the other. You can buy all the fleabay Chineese crap and put it on your Jeeps, but you will never get the results than if you got the right stuff to begin with. I have projectors on my NNBS Chevy Silverado and it doesn't come close to the lighting my Jeep throws. Find someone with E codes and the correct wiring with relays and you can see for yourself. By the way, all the top European cars have had these same lights for years.
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Unread 02-26-2014, 10:28 PM   #72
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Most don't realize that how the light is shaped is incredibly crucial. You can put as high a wattage HID in your headlights as you want, it won't make a difference, your light is still scattered where it doesn't need to go. Might as well just drive with a flashlight, at least you can point the light where you need to see.
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Most don't realize that how the light is shaped is incredibly crucial. You can put as high a wattage HID in your headlights as you want, it won't make a difference, your light is still scattered where it doesn't need to go. Might as well just drive with a flashlight, at least you can point the light where you need to see.

Thats very true and the exact problem I had with the deltas I purchased, very bright but so many shaddowy peaks and valleys, just a terribly distracting pattern.

So is the general concensus on H4 housings and bulbs(not hid or led) that The Cibie housing will give the best pattern and osram bulbs mentioned earlier in the thread will give a nice wide spectrum bright light?

I dont care about trendy white or odd colors I just want a wide even bright pattern for my aging eyes . Thanks
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ok re-read the thread and on advice have, contacted http://www.danielsternlighting.com for appropriate housings and bulbs.
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I found the Cibies to be the easiest on my eyes during long drives. Trucklites were the worst.
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