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Unread 07-07-2013, 03:18 AM   #1
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Gilbert, the 90 YJ Build

This is Gilbert



A little history of the jeep, beginning with the name. My wife names every one of our vehicles. Don't ask me why, but even the folders that track all of our purchases and repairs on vehicles are labeled with the name. So when my wife and I started dating in college, she wanted to call the jeep Eeyore because she thought it sounded depressed before I even started up the hills around our college and the grey color reminded her of it. It stuck for a while, and was After a while, the name Gilbert came up and at least in my mind, it has stuck. Now to convince her otherwise is a different story.

I purchased this Jeep in 2009 after my Ford Escort died. My luck right? I knew I wanted to get a jeep and really didn't know much about them, just kinda jumped in head first. So, I purchased it from my Uncle for $2,000 dollars. I am the third owner and at the time of purchase it had 120k on it and it was well taken care of with the only issues being a little rust on the windshield frame.

Next two and a half years, I ran it as my DD. It helped me finish college and a month after graduation got me and my wife, fiancee at the time, to Kentucky where she got a job. Well slowly things started slowly wearing down and it taking me over a year to find a job that paid a little more than bill money my jeep didn't really get any mods. Except the bikini top my wife purchased for me!



That is NOT a gorilla escaped from a zoo. Just a college football player who hadn't realized at the time that maintaining that size was expensive and no longer needed.

So fast forward to late 2011. I was hired as a 911 dispatcher, who had the ability to go on fire department calls for the city. It was a step in the right direction as month to month became easier and we were covering our expenses with a little extra every month. In 2012 we started to get even better handle on bills. So much so that we added more . We purchased her a car, then a house, and then got married. Expensive year and Gilbert just quietly and without fail got me where I needed to be.

In late 2012 a good thing and a bad thing happened. The city I dispatched and was a firefighter for offered me a job as a police officer! Did the 6 months of training required by the state, but Gilbert did not take me to training every week. The bad thing was the transmission had began slipping and had become unreliable. Probably resulted from going into some water that was to the step on Gilbert. Flooding in south eastern Indiana and my friend needed to get to his parents coupled with my ignorance of the vent hole location on the TF999 was just the perfect storm.

Luckily my father in law had purchased a new truck and received a take home truck for becoming Chief of his Fire Department where he worked. He sold me his old Dodge 2500 for $1 to become my DD. 6 months the jeep sat in the back yard waiting for me to do something with it.

After graduation from police academy and my pay raise, my wife has made me set up a jeep fund that takes a little of my check every week and puts it into an account that is strictly for the Jeep. She is amazing and a Jeeper Keeper.

--------------------- The Build --------------------------------

Warning and disclosure. This build is going to be hopefully faster than a YJ going up a hill but there are no promises. Three main reasons for this is that I have X amount of money coming in every month. Can't spend more than I have, but that leads to my next reason. I am patient almost to a fault. I will wait for the right deal and will not spend more than I have to. The biggest reason yet is I do not have a shop or access to a local shop here in Kentucky, so a 2.5 hour drive to Indiana has to be made to work on it. This is where my in law's property has a very well equiped garage available and some buddies that can help this build along. So I hauled the Jeep up and that first picture is it sitting in the driveway next to the garage.

That day we tweaked the carb, got the battery charged, gave it a bath, and just played with it. Got back to Kentucky and ordered a TF999 rebuild kit. Napa got me the complete kit with friction plates and everything. Was quoted 92.99 or something, but then the manager knew I was a cop so he cut the price to 66 and some change. Score!

Talking with one of my co-worker's husbands, he had a bunch of "jeep" parts that he wanted to get rid of it. I told him I would take anything he wanted to get rid of. Got there and he unloaded these into my truck.



4.2 motor, also pictured is a torque converter.



A transmission minus bell housing and 4.0 head



AW4 transmission and under those valve covers is another 4.0 head.

Not pictured was several smaller items like exhaust manifold and some items I really don't know, but hey when I asked him what he wanted for it he said free. I wasn't going to complain. A little dirty but everything seemed like it could be cleaned up and traded for things I need or even used on my jeep.


My plan is take this in steps. My first goals are going to get it drivable, legal, safe, and then expand out from there. My ultimate goal is a long way off but I think I have it broken down into junks, but the first step is the biggest.

Steps:

Rebuild the TF999 transmission. It is not my DD so I don't mind no OD, it has a good gear ratio for what I will encounter here in Kentucky, and I my goal is to be as computer free as possible so no use for that AW4.

Windshield repair where my wife put her feet up on the dash and pressed on the window causing it to crack. It's up here because it is a Kentucky law to have no front window cracks.

Next big thing is I want to take the tub off and get a good look at it and my frame. I want to address any and all rust before I throw large amounts of money into other areas. Then I want to take steps to prevent rust and make it look nice, as long as it can in the salt heavy winters of the Ohio River Valley.

Remove trac and sway bars. Easy and free upgrade.

Nutter Bypass and subsequent removal of unnecessary wires and vacuum lines. Easy and low cost upgrade.

Monster line, Linex, or something my tub.

Marine Radio for my jeep. Nothing fancy as to attract thieves since I go topless a lot.

Paint vehicle and address a small ding on the right front fender that occurred in the parking lot of my college. Found it one morning, barely noticeable to anyone other than me.

I am looking into the R36 OME springs with Bilstein 5100 shocks, slight shackle lift, and trimming of the fenders. I like sparrows look, but not sure on the 35s.

Looking into the 8.8 swap. Looking for one from factoryopen differential and 4.10 gears. Open differential, because I am planning for end game. Eventually I want 4.88 and ABR air lockers so as nice as the LSD would be right now, I'd have to spend more on a carrier in the end.

Looking for a Dana 30 that came factory 4.10 gears so that I can upgrade them later to the 4.88, ABR air lockers also, ect ect

Of course with the lift and the 8.8 sway there are some things that need to be gone over with the brakes, line extension, MC swap, ect.

Then comes the wheels, tires, homebrew bumpers, rockers, and then a winch.

This is the plan and I am gonna stick to it as much as possible.

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Unread 07-07-2013, 06:27 AM   #2
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Looking into the 8.8 swap. Looking for one from factoryopen differential and 4.10 gears. Open differential, because I am planning for end game. Eventually I want 4.88 and ABR air lockers so as nice as the LSD would be right now, I'd have to spend more on a carrier in the end.
Looks like a good start... but about what you said above:

The cost should be no different whether you're changing from open OR L/S going to an ARB.... in either case, the stock carrier becomes a paperweight as the ARB replaces the carrier.
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Unread 07-07-2013, 01:33 PM   #3
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I was unaware of that and as I said I jumped head first and really am learning on the fly so I appreciate when I am corrected.
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Unread 07-07-2013, 07:34 PM   #4
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the stock carrier becomes a paperweight as the ARB replaces the carrier.
This is true enough, depending on the original cost of the 8.8... If an LSD is around the same cost as an open, may as well go with the LSD. Of course availability can also be a deciding factor.

Good luck with the build, my own feels very much like a 2.5 YJ going up a hill sometimes.
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Unread 07-07-2013, 10:36 PM   #5
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I'm lucky that I can get 3.73 LSD for 150-200 at the local scrap yard down the road. I am really wanting the 4.10 so that I can run them with 33's comfortably as I recoup after getting all this done. There is a pull a part in Louisville that I just need to find a good day and go.
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Unread 07-12-2013, 07:38 AM   #6
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Our local pull apart here in Louisville has a lot of decent parts and wrecked xj and zj. I usually pick over them every few months just for spare parts. We have several great jeep shops in Louisville that are both helpful and knowledgeable. Good luck on your Jeep
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Unread 07-16-2013, 07:48 PM   #7
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Hmm came across these on craigslist and it sparked my interest so I contacted the gentleman, talked him down to $150, and will be meeting him for an in person inspection and hopefully a exchange of money and parts.










I see a little surface rust in the pictures but it really looks decent for the price. Is there anything else I should be wary of or making sure to check out before I purchase this? He is advising that it has never been installed, It just sat in his Garage.

Since I can't play with my Jeep until August 1st, here is my cruiser where a lot of my f12ing occurs.

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Unread 07-16-2013, 07:57 PM   #8
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I'd just compare it part for part with an available kit. http://www.eadoffroad.com/rugged-rid...eliminator-kit
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Unread 07-16-2013, 08:06 PM   #9
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Yeah that is a good idea on comparing them. I was originally going to pass it up because I had seen several online for 150ish range and just order it online when I needed it, but the drive shaft coming with it at the $150 price tag seemed a little nice
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Unread 07-16-2013, 08:15 PM   #10
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Very nice. The shaft alone is worth it.
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Unread 07-17-2013, 12:11 AM   #11
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Enjoyed reading your story OP. Your future plans sound very similar to my build You will not be dissapointed. Keep in mind with auto 3 speed, you will not need much more than 4.10s unless you plan on larger than 35s. Then I would suggest doing spring over with those 36R OMEs. They really don't give you enough lift for anything more than 33s unless you get high line fenders or go spring over.

Grab that CV shaft and hang on to it for the 8.8 swap. Sounds like a good deal.

Subscribed, looking forward to see how it turns out
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Unread 07-17-2013, 07:30 AM   #12
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Thanks KGB, I love the way your Jeep looks and have been subscribed to your build for a while now.
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Unread 07-17-2013, 10:03 PM   #13
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Got everything and am pleased with it. Only issue I had was that the SYE came with only the housing, shaft and Yoke. No Speedometer gear, seals, clips, ect ect. So I have emailed Toms to see if there is a kit/individual parts I can purchase with just that stuff since my attempts to use Google to find it have failed. If anyone's Google skills/knowledge of where to find things on parts websites are greater than mine and find such things, please share. I was a little excited to get some things that I could work on so, I began working on the rust.

Before


After



I also have a question about the Shaft. Can it be painted? Is there anything I shouldn't do to it to clean off rust?
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Unread 07-17-2013, 11:41 PM   #14
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Looks great, but don't paint the shaft.
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Unread 07-18-2013, 06:38 PM   #15
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Just had to give a shout out to Tom's for a quick response to my email. Awesome customer service, even to someone that hasn't purchased anything yet.

Slip Yoke Eliminator Hardware Kit
http://www.toms4x4superstore.com/pro...-Wrangler.html

Looks like my SYE and Driveshaft will be less than $200 total after that purchase and the speedo gear.
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