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Unread 10-18-2007, 09:14 AM   #1
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front wheel trying to fall off

Last saturday I was driving my heep down the expressway when it started having a bad vibe in the front end. When I pulled off the road I could hear a popping noise. I made it to where I was going and we figured it was a bad wheel bearing. I limped it home and to my horror discovered the wheel was ready to fall off when I made it there, all the lugs where coming off as well as a broken wheel stud. I put a new hub and rotor on because it destroyed my rotor. Put it all back together and there still feels like the wheel is a little loose. I took it for a drive around the block then jacked it up and the wheel is really loose. Took everything back apart and checked it, everything seems fine. Put it all back together again but the wheel still feels loose, kinda like a bad ball joint but it's not the ball joint moving. Could it be the axle bearings? It's not the axle, it's tight. I don't know what else to look for.

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Unread 10-18-2007, 09:29 AM   #2
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if the wheel is moving, it would be because of one of two things, ball joints, or wheel bearing(unit bearing).
did you get the nut on the end of the stub shaft tight enough(torqued to proper specs.)? if that nut is not tight enough, the unit bearing will seperate.
I can't remember the correct torque for the stub shaft nut at the moment, but I'll look and see if I can find it.
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Unread 10-18-2007, 09:59 AM   #3
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yes, I tightened the nut on the axle shaft with a impact wrench, it's on there!
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Unread 10-18-2007, 11:07 AM   #4
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Jack up the problem side under the leaf spring/axle.
Once you get the wheel off the ground and the jeep is secured.

Kneel down infront of the tire and grab a hold of the tire at 12 oclock and 6 o'clock. Now wiggle the tire back and worth, nothing crazy be easy with it. It also helps to have a helper watching for play. If its tight grab the tire at 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock and repeat. If you have play you'll be able to spot it.
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If your lugs nuts were that loose, all that wobbling may have rounded out the lug holes on the wheels. Pull the wheel and check those holes!
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If your lugs nuts were that loose, all that wobbling may have rounded out the lug holes on the wheels. Pull the wheel and check those holes!
yes, it rounded out the holes, I put the spare on until my new wheel comes in. It's not the ball joints. he only other thing I can think of is I got a bad bearing in the new hub I just installed.
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Unread 10-18-2007, 12:37 PM   #7
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yes, it rounded out the holes, I put the spare on until my new wheel comes in. It's not the ball joints. he only other thing I can think of is I got a bad bearing in the new hub I just installed.
Have you tried rotating the tires and see if the problem moves?

I had a problem with a worn bearing/hub that had a vibration which backed out the lugs. Wheel actually came off the Jeep, but fortunately I was crawling through the pasture (In high school, with a date! Talk about looking like a stud muffin....)

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I put the spare on...
Sorry, missed that part.
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the single biggest cause of unit bearing failure is improper torque! 175 ft lbs is spec on wranglers. PLEASE do NOT just impact gun them on!!!!!!!!
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the single biggest cause of unit bearing failure is improper torque! 175 ft lbs is spec on wranglers. PLEASE do NOT just impact gun them on!!!!!!!!
I was told by the Jeep/Dodge dealer to torque it at 325 lbs. They also said they just use a impact gun to do it. I used my friends small gun to do it, it's about 350lbs. I guess I know what the problem is now.
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I was told by the Jeep/Dodge dealer to torque it at 325 lbs. They also said they just use a impact gun to do it. I used my friends small gun to do it, it's about 350lbs. I guess I know what the problem is now.

HOLY CRAP MAN!!!!!!!!!!!! 325lbs??????????????


Some one was BSin you. 175ft lbs.
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BA-JESUS!!!!! 325 ft/lbs??!!! My god, there's a perfect example as to why you shouldn't take your rig to a dealer.... EVER!!!
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I couldn't find my Jeep book and I was at the dealer looking at trucks so I asked. Maybe I'll call up there and tell them they have a ******* working for them or maybe I'm the ******* for listening to him.
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