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Unread 02-26-2009, 10:53 AM   #91
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No not another should I remove tracbar question.

My post is about flex. History: Removed rear long ago. Just got around to removing front and it made no difference. The flex was the same in the front. I jacked up one side, left one side of the trac bar connected then realigned the trac bar and it was off only half of the bolt hole. Then I lowered the Jeep removed the sway bar and that easily gave me another inch of flex. Yes all my shackles were loose for testing.
So is the front trac bar debate a myth?
Are the RC springs so firm they just wont flex to take advantage of the removal?
Sorry not rying to find a new way to beat a dead horse, just trying to dial in my suspension/bumpstops. Opinions?

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Unread 02-26-2009, 10:57 AM   #92
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Let me make sure I understand...you took off the trac bar and tried to see if it made a difference in the flex with the swaybar still connected?

RC springs are pretty flexy...

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Unread 02-26-2009, 10:59 AM   #93
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I doubt it's stiffness.
Despite popular belief, I run RC AAL all around and get pretty good flex for 1.5 inches of lift and that's about as stiff as they come.
I removed the trac bad and I have my 31s crammed up inside of the fenders at full flex (I've already done some fender damage haha).
It may just be a myth, though I think it just allows the axle to move in a more fluid motion without the variable of a metal rob limiting it's movement in any direction.

I'm not sure if I'm correct.
Maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in.

-Brian

P.S. - Full flex with AALs. Tracbar (front) and sway bar removed.
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Unread 02-26-2009, 11:02 AM   #94
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While I'm at it,
Sorry for the hi-jack, but would anyone here know how to prevent my tires from bending up my fenders (the sheetmetal part) without hurting the uptravel of the axle (i.e., extra long bumpstops inhibiting up axle movement).

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Unread 02-26-2009, 11:15 AM   #95
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I removed mine and it made a huge difference. I'm not sure that a floor jack test is a real test.
Take it out and play with it. Bend it, flex it, and abuse it.
You can always put it back on if you don't notice a difference.
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Unread 02-26-2009, 12:09 PM   #96
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Let me make sure I understand...you took off the trac bar and tried to see if it made a difference in the flex with the swaybar still connected?

RC springs are pretty flexy...

Yeah I tried it both with the sway connected and without just for comparison purposes.
I was also unsure about the floor jack test. It can't simulate the type of flex in your pics.

I guess I will have to go try it out now. Thanks for the input.
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Unread 02-26-2009, 12:45 PM   #97
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having the track bar on limits flex my almost 30% although you will not see any results with the sway bar still connected.
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Unread 02-26-2009, 12:48 PM   #98
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How new are your spings are they broke in yet??
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Unread 02-26-2009, 01:07 PM   #99
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having the track bar on limits flex my almost 30% although you will not see any results with the sway bar still connected.
Thats kinda what I was getting at with my post. Alot of guys say they remove trac bars but leave the sway. To me(based on my little test) you have to remove both to see the results.

BTW my springs:They are about 1+ years old and been off road a number of times, they should be broken in by now.
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Unread 02-26-2009, 01:11 PM   #100
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Thats kinda what I was getting at with my post. Alot of guys say they remove trac bars but leave the sway. To me(based on my little test) you have to remove both to see the results.
This is true. Most people who say remove the trac bars but keep the swaybar most of the time mean that you should keep the swaybar but install swaybar disconnects. That way you are sway free on the road, but then disconnect it when youre off road.
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Thats kinda what I was getting at with my post. Alot of guys say they remove trac bars but leave the sway. To me(based on my little test) you have to remove both to see the results.

BTW my springs:They are about 1+ years old and been off road a number of times, they should be broken in by now.
okay wasnt sure i know my rear springs just now have been finally broken in and there over two years old the PO never really wheeled it and then once i started wheeling i removed the rear track bar and they are a lot softer now havnt taken the front off yet but soon after i fix my ball joints buy a steering dampener fix my steering column and buy new tie rods i will be good to go
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Unread 12-26-2009, 11:00 AM   #102
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Front track/sway bar removal pics(repetitive/redundant questions merged here as well)


Maybe I am just being a dolt, but after extensive searching of the forums, I am unable to find a "Track Bar Removal for the Chronically Dumb" write-up. I keep reading all of the threads, and read all of the benefits [ride, flex, etc.] but every time I crawl under the Jeep to try this mod, I do not really know where to begin. Is there a "How-to" write-up anywhere on this forum that will walk me through the need-to-know's about removing track bars/sway bars? I am desperate to do this, but still nervous about going into it not fully armed with the do's and don'ts.

'90 YJ with a 2-3" Body Lift, but stock suspension.

Thank you for your input.
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Unread 12-26-2009, 11:21 AM   #103
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Unread 12-26-2009, 11:23 AM   #104
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Do you have a Chiltons manual? It has a decent explanation. However it says nothing about the sway bar.
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Unread 12-26-2009, 11:26 AM   #105
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Thats the old style, you need the new SUPER-SUPERSAWZALL, it rotates 180 in the center, and is shorter, lol
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