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post #751 of 1340 Old 01-10-2013, 05:32 PM
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You don't get it, do you?

You can stick the trackbar anywhere you like because its going to hinder the suspension cycling just the same in every place you put it. You have a spring over lift and if you did your research correctly you would know this.


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post #752 of 1340 Old 01-10-2013, 06:51 PM
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Yeah I get what your saying, but are you listening to what I'm sayin?

I'm not looking for a suspension education session here, or i would have asked if i should use it or not and why. I appreciate your advise on not using the track bar but that's not the reason I put this post up. I was only looking for someone to offer some input on where the bracket was located, not if it should have been there in the first place.
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hahn406,
If you look at the axle disconnect, there is a bracket on the front of the axle were the tracbar attaches, right above the steering stabilizer. Bolt on eye of your tracbar to this bracket, now you want your tracbar to be the same angle as your draglink from the steering box to the right side of the axle. You will need to fab a bracket since the tracbar will be to short with a SOA.
I know you like the tracbar, but after replacing all of your fillings, chard loose by the rough ride you most likely will remove it.

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post #754 of 1340 Old 01-10-2013, 07:42 PM
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Thank you ROWA for helpin me out with some insight.
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Yeah I get what your saying, but are you listening to what I'm sayin?

I'm not looking for a suspension education session here, or i would have asked if i should use it or not and why. I appreciate your advise on not using the track bar but that's not the reason I put this post up. I was only looking for someone to offer some input on where the bracket was located, not if it should have been there in the first place.
Like I said, you can put it anywhere and its going to do the same thing in any place you stick it. It's like a blindfold and a dartboard. Anywhere is good.

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I have a feeling a "My jeep won't flex well" thread is on it's way.

Those are gonna have to be a big bracket extension to make it work close to the way intended.

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post #758 of 1340 Old 01-10-2013, 08:56 PM
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See this bracket behind the steering box? Yep, that's where it went stock.





Doesn't matter where you put an aftermarket one on the frame.

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post #759 of 1340 Old 01-10-2013, 10:39 PM
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As stated, the track bar really is not needed but it's your choice if you want it or not.

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post #760 of 1340 Old 01-11-2013, 12:31 AM
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Thanks for the detailed locations of the bar mounts. When the PO did the frame repair and soa he made some interesting decisions when it came to how modify things. You should have seen the cherokee rear sway bar he had half *** welded in under the front end.

This jeep won't see too much offroad once its back together completely. My next debate is whether or not to buy standard or hd springs stock height springs, cuz the ones on here are starting to bend the other way and I want to get it sitting nice and level before I fab anything.
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Ive stated this repeatedly that a track bar does not inherently cause a rough ride. It will bind with a good amount of flex but with the 2 to 4 inches of suspension movement experienced on the road a properly functioning unit will be fine. He is using a new one and will not cause ride issues like the old unmaintaned and frozen units everyone removes. If i thought a trackbar would wreck my ride i wouldnt be using one now.

To the op i have a spring plate with a trackbar bracket incorporated into it that raises the axle end a good amount. Ill send a pic and if you can use it its yours.

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post #762 of 1340 Old 01-11-2013, 03:01 AM
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The track bar needs to be the same length as your drag link. Otherwise, well you'll see.

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Ive stated this repeatedly that a track bar does not inherently cause a rough ride. It will bind with a good amount of flex but with the 2 to 4 inches of suspension movement experienced on the road a properly functioning unit will be fine. He is using a new one and will not cause ride issues like the old unmaintaned and frozen units everyone removes. If i thought a trackbar would wreck my ride i wouldnt be using one now.

To the op i have a spring plate with a trackbar bracket incorporated into it that raises the axle end a good amount. Ill send a pic and if you can use it its yours.
I feel I have to disagree here. Your right in that on-street binding of the trackbar really isn't much. However, it does inherently, by it's design, actually bind at just about all suspension movement besides at rest. Axle goes up, trackbar (located on an angle vs axle plane) transmits force to the frame and/or pushes the axle laterally off center. Same during axle droop, just the other direction. Hit a bump, force travels through the bar and to the frame resulting in a shock that can be felt.

The binding is even more prevalent in a leaf spring design in which the bar acts against the natural ability of the leaf springs themselves to keep the axle located.

But hey, run them if you want. If you feel they work for you then go for it. Im all for people making their Jeeps work they way they want them to. Im quite happy without mine.
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post #765 of 1340 Old 01-14-2013, 10:38 AM
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I had les schwaubs tell me I needed to put my trac bar back on cause it was contributing to my death wobble

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