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Unread 10-09-2008, 08:27 PM   #61
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^^ your right same, check his profile, dana 30 and 35 locked, that will snap as soon as he thinks about hitting the locker switch, anyways, do a search, this topic has been covered quite a bit, and yes the rear trac bar is useless, but with that much lift i'd get a telescoping one if they make them, jks makes one for the front.

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Unread 10-09-2008, 09:23 PM   #62
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tracbar

yeah that is the part missing, the riser bracket, for the jks mfg telescoping trackbar, but i had one made today, all bolted up and seems to be OK, waiting on sway bar disconnects from rubicon express, i only had one w/8" centers, needed 10" centers, then i will be ready for new axles
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Unread 10-09-2008, 10:05 PM   #63
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Yea swap those axles out asap. You can probably get some $$ for the lockers, atleast the dana 30.
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Unread 10-10-2008, 07:13 PM   #64
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Bigforeman, Did I see your YJ at Sebring this year?? It looks familiar.

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Unread 10-26-2008, 09:46 AM   #65
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Removed Tracbar now jeep sways

I removed my sway bar and tracbar yesterday and now when I am cruising down the highway and hit a bump or turn my Jeep will sway side to side so bad that I have to slam on the brakes and slow down to get it to stop. My Jeep is pretty close to stock the only thing changed on the front is the shackles they are 1.5 inch straight lift shackles. I am wondering if anyone else had this problem as I do not want to put the Tracbar back on but I can't keep driving it the way it is. Any suggestions welcome thanks in advance.
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Unread 10-26-2008, 09:56 AM   #66
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How are the spring bushings?If they're the stock rubber ones they're probably shot. How are the shocks? are they new or stock? Hows the frame? any rust through spots? Mine will bounce and sway alittle but straightens right out. At 65mph a good bump on the highway will make it bounce but it won't lose it's cool.
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Unread 10-26-2008, 10:26 AM   #67
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The bushings are in great shape the shocks are not new but not stock and it's a California jeep we don't have rust here I can't get it over 45 for the fear of soiling my pants but when I am doing about 35 I can move the steering wheel back and forth just a little and it starts the swaying. I did it while looking at my tire and it does look like the axle is going straight and the body is moving side to side about 3/4 of an inch if that makes sense to anyone.
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Unread 10-26-2008, 10:43 AM   #68
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You may be able to drive safely without the sway bar (I have seen a lot of rigs w/o sway bars or with them disco) but the trac bar serves an important function "keeping the front axle centered under the Jeep" and should not be removed for street or highway use. If operating at speeds above 30 MPH, you are asking for a disaster.
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Unread 10-26-2008, 10:50 AM   #69
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I don't run the front or rear trac bars on my YJ...but I do run the swaybar with disco's. My shackles are 5/8" lift booms. If you are getting 1 1/2" of lift from your shackles they may be what's causing your side to side sway. If they aren't beefy enough they may be flexing side to side. A good set of leaf springs and shackles = no trac bars required. Some opt to keep the swaybar for on road driving...I did, even though it didn't sway too terribly bad without.

Get bettter (shorter) shackles and some disco's for you swaybar...should help.
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I don't run the front or rear trac bars on my YJ...but I do run the swaybar with disco's. My shackles are 5/8" lift booms. If you are getting 1 1/2" of lift from your shackles they may be what's causing your side to side sway. If they aren't beefy enough they may be flexing side to side. A good set of leaf springs and shackles = no trac bars required. Some opt to keep the swaybar for on road driving...I did, even though it didn't sway too terribly bad without.

Get bettter (shorter) shackles and some disco's for you swaybar...should help.
I was thinking it might have something to do with the Shackles. They are only temporary anyways I am putting on a 4" lift in a few weeks and going back to stock shackles. I guess I will throw the tracbar back on for the time being and maybe try again with the different set up. As for the swaybar I don't think that is any issue with this, I have taken them off af just about every truck and jeep I have owned they only limit travel and stop body roll as far as I know.
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Unread 10-26-2008, 11:08 AM   #71
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I agree, if you keep the rubber spring bushings,
put the TRAC Bar back on.
They are too weak and never designed to locate
the front axle by them selves.
Most aftermarket shackles are made to work with Poly Bushings
and I'm surprised they didn't come with them.
Also realize that with those lift shackles you have changed
the castor of your steering which also will make it wonder.
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Unread 10-26-2008, 11:08 AM   #72
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The track bar cost AMC money, so you can assume it's there for a reason (i.e. bad safety record for CJs).

Removing it will not improve your ride or significantly affect your flex, so I'm not sure why people want to take them off.

Sway bars are a different story. A disco is a good idea because they do interfere with flex, but at road speeds they add substantially to stability by controlling body roll, especially during emergency maneuvers.
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You may be able to drive safely without the sway bar (I have seen a lot of rigs w/o sway bars or with them disco) but the trac bar serves an important function "keeping the front axle centered under the Jeep" and should not be removed for street or highway use. If operating at speeds above 30 MPH, you are asking for a disaster.
On a non triangulated linked suspension thats true. But leaf springs dont need them, they keep themselves centered. There have been many threads on this topic, many polls also, a high amount of YJers dont have trac bars and they still drive their YJs daily without any issues and I'm one of them. The reason they put them on is because of the CJs. But the CJs also had much skinnier leaves (half an inch skinnier??) which is what caused the issues, the YJs have wider leaves which gets rid of the issue. Jeep just wanted to make sure there would be no complaints of a sketchy ride so they threw everything they could onto the YJs. How many leaf sprung vehicles have trac bars? Pickups dont, Land Cruisers dont...so if theyre safe without them why would we need them?
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Unread 10-26-2008, 11:20 AM   #74
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I would look at other things under the Jeep causing the problems. Shackles might be doing it. I have not had sway or tracbars in almost two years. I drive at highway speeds(70-75mph) regularly on winding mountain roads. I was paying attention to my body roll an so forth yesterday and the body roll is hardly noticeable. I have hit some major bumps and there is not a swaying problems. Just this summer they were repaving the road in front of my street. Where the construction stopped there was a bump from the old to new pavement. I would hit it at 60 and the jeep would just bump up it and keep going with not problems. I had seen empty dump truck's tires leave the ground when hitting this bump.

It is my thought and it seems some other here share the same idea that sway and tracbars are almost a band aid covering up other problems. Of course these are really good band aids that can be left on and things will work fine. There is not much need for either tracbars or swaybars on a well built and adjusted Jeep. Maybe stock springs need tracbars and higher quality springs do not. I would be interested to see what the guys that think Jeeps are death traps with out bars are running compared to the guys that think they are unnecessary
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Unread 10-26-2008, 11:25 AM   #75
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tying putting it back to stock then remove one bar at a time and see what happens.

remove the rear and drive for a few das. then the front , then the sway bar.
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