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Unread 08-31-2006, 09:10 PM   #16
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No rear sway bars on a YJ, just on the front. Trac bars at both ends. I don't run w/trac bars. I don't mind my sway bar disconnected around town, but it's a little dicey on the freeway.

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Unread 08-31-2006, 09:50 PM   #17
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I personally ditched both when I did my lift. I only notice the front tracbar being gone, everything else just made the jeep smoother. If you have a set of decent springs and have your junk properly aligned (steering geometry counts bigtime here...) then you'll be fine.

If its too darty or rolls too much for your tastes, then put the swaybar back in with a set of disconnects. That should stiffen up the ride in the turns and give you a more positive feel. However, if you're pulling emergency manuvers (quick turns, heavy braking etc...) in a lifted jeep, a swaybar is not going to save you if you're at highway speed.
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Unread 08-31-2006, 10:12 PM   #18
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thats the way i see it..i have 5 inches of lift and 33s, and i havn't run any swaybars on my xj for a couple weeks. if i have to dodge something going that fast, i dont see it helping much. and its so nice to just get to where your going and be immediatly ready to go, and not have to mess with anything
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Unread 09-01-2006, 11:48 AM   #19
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IMO,

Definitely take the track bars off,

if you are going to be driving on the highway or towing a trailer i would recommend getting sway bar disconnects. If you are going to be driving on back roads just take the sway bars off and never look back...
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Unread 09-01-2006, 12:48 PM   #20
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If your concered, they do make telescoping track bars. Couple nuts to release it while offroad and it will work like a giant piston. Once your back on the road, just retighten the nuts, secures it back in place like a standard track bar. That and a set of disconnects will leave you vehicle with all the benifits of the track bar and sway bar on road, and none of the disadvantages off road. Granted, the telescoping track bar runs around $200-$230. But, if your worried about it. I think

I'll eventually go that route because my jeep along with being my 4x4 also transports me to and from school across the pass a few times a month. 100+ mile drive one way. I'd rather not take chances I don't need to either in standard daily driving or emegency manuvering at 75mph on a Pass where you can slide over the 1000+ foot cliff/hill.

Might try hitting up SimonTuffGuy. He just got JSK discos and the telescoping bar today. Could see how he likes it http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/new-parts-new-parts-310613/

Heres the link to the stuff http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/p...dProduct=11074
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Unread 09-28-2006, 09:01 PM   #21
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how much to expect from swaybars+tracbar removal

hey everybody

ive got a buddy with 2.5 inches of lift and 32s. the lift he bought was nice..full packs, included shocks etc. but i think a train could flex more then that thing. hes a pretty good driver, but with open diffs, and no flex, on the trails we enjoy that makes him either stuck or some interesting driving.

so hes coming over tomarrow for me to help him remove his front and rear track bar, and his front swaybar. how much can we expect out of this, and is it even worth while. ill say on my XJ...especially front it was more then worth the time. but i cant tell yet how stiff his packs are anyways

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Unread 09-28-2006, 09:06 PM   #22
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Don't remove the track bar. It is pretty important. It keeps the axle centered and attached on the jeep. No track bar= axle ejecting itself out from under the Jeep.

Don't remove the front sway bar, just get or make some disconnects. I will edit later with links.

edit: After reading the post below, it would make sense that it is a YJ seeing that he got new packs. Don't know anything about YJs. Sorry. You can tell if it is a YJ by seeing if it has square headlights.
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Unread 09-28-2006, 09:07 PM   #23
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hey everybody

ive got a buddy with 2.5 inches of lift and 32s. the lift he bought was nice..full packs, included shocks etc. but i think a train could flex more then that thing. hes a pretty good driver, but with open diffs, and no flex, on the trails we enjoy that makes him either stuck or some interesting driving.

so hes coming over tomarrow for me to help him remove his front and rear track bar, and his front swaybar. how much can we expect out of this, and is it even worth while. ill say on my XJ...especially front it was more then worth the time. but i cant tell yet how stiff his packs are anyways

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I would assume you're talking about a YJ... as a TJ without a trackbar would be completely undriveable. If you confirm this I'll move the thread to the YJ section

On a YJ removing the trackbar should help quite a bit with flex. But if he drives it on the street it may not be the best idea. However, JKS makes a telescopic trackbar... so you can run normally on the street, then pull the pin and it will drive like there is no trackbar installed for off-road.

As for the swaybar, you can do without but I'd recommend leaving at least one installed for on-road driving, and use disconnects for off-road.
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Unread 09-28-2006, 09:21 PM   #24
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ahh...very sorry..lol. yea i tried to drive my xj down the road without a track bar and it was impossible..lol

yea this thread was intended for the YJ forum..sorry again
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Unread 09-28-2006, 10:39 PM   #25
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As long as he doesn't drive like a nut on the road he'll be fine with em all removed. It'll definitely help perform offroad. But if he doesn't like it he can always put em back on. I'd be willing to bet he'll leave em off though.
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Unread 09-28-2006, 11:06 PM   #26
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As long as he doesn't drive like a nut on the road he'll be fine with em all removed. It'll definitely help perform offroad. But if he doesn't like it he can always put em back on. I'd be willing to bet he'll leave em off though.
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you could ditch the track bars and do disco's in the front if this is a daily driver/weekend wheeler.

I grew tired of the disco routine and ditched the sway bar when I went SOA and I have not looked back since.
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Unread 09-28-2006, 11:24 PM   #27
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The factory POS tracbars and swaybar have been completely removed for ~8 years with zero drawbacks due to how my junk is set-up and how I drive it.

They seem to be completely at home in their rightful place of rest.

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Unread 09-29-2006, 01:03 AM   #28
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^^^ I fully agree. I had the rear swaybar/trackbar removed when I first bought my jeep. I removed the swaybar about a month ago. And now I just removed the track bar about a week ago, and boy what a world of difference it makes in the flex and the ride quality. Its a little more loose now and I have to watch my speeds, but it wasn't like I didn't do that already. Its a jeep for the love of god!!! I figure anybody who is driving too fast around a corner in a jeep deserves to roll it in the first place. But, all joking aside, I have all my bars off and won't be installing them again anytime soon.
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Unread 09-29-2006, 01:28 AM   #29
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As a side note, since you mentioned the stiff ride, make sure that his shackles are not over torqued.

They should be around 40-45 ft-lbs. on all 4 corners, if they are too tight this could be a contributing factor to a harsh ride.

As for the limited flex, the springs might need to break in a bit though too.
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Unread 09-29-2006, 03:08 AM   #30
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I bought my 88 Wrangler 100% stock about a year ago and the first thing I did was remove trackbars and the swaybar. There was no noticable difference on the street, but it did seem to keep the tires on the ground more when offroad.

Even with a 4" lift I can't see why anybody would mess with that stuff. But I hear the swaybar helps out quite a bit on SOA Jeeps.
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