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Unread 10-15-2010, 12:23 AM   #151
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Unread 10-15-2010, 09:46 AM   #152
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Thats fine for trail riding however my jeep gets alot of use in the winter when the weather is questionable and id rather not have to jerk the wheel every so often to keep the thing straight.

In the case of ditching the track bars, if anyone ditches theirs can they measure the bolts for me first before they throw everything away.

Anybody have any sizes and not suggestions to ditch it?
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Unread 10-15-2010, 10:05 AM   #153
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probably not. everyone ditches it because it works in a different plane then the leaf springs so they fight each other and cause a very rough ride.
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Unread 10-15-2010, 10:49 AM   #154
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stm144 - Depending on other projects and whether or not mine will come off easily, I'll probably be removing my track bars this weekend. If I like the ride better, I'll send you my bolts if you cover shipping.
Or you can go to a pick-a-part/pick'n'pull and get them.
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Unread 10-15-2010, 11:51 AM   #155
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So even for 90% street use and stock height I should get rid of the track bars front and rear????
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Unread 10-15-2010, 11:58 AM   #156
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i use mine 100 percent street and i tossed them and mine is totally stock
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Unread 10-15-2010, 12:06 PM   #157
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Track bars are worthless on a leaf sprung vehicle, period. What you should keep with a stock height suspension is the sway bar. This is becuase the springs are softer and worn out from years of use, you'll have more body roll than with new, stiffer lift springs.

If you're having driveability issues, there is something else wrong besides the track bar, because CJ's don't even have track bars, and 95% of us YJ's on here don't either.
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Unread 10-15-2010, 12:18 PM   #158
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Track bars aren't going to cause your vehicle to drift off. You have other problems. I'd start by checking your tie rod ends.
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Unread 10-15-2010, 12:24 PM   #159
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As others have said, the track bars are NOT needed.

I've said this before, The only way that you will notice any ill effects from remvoing the track bars, is if the rest of your suspension is worn out.
Leaf spring suspensions do not need a track bar, the leaf springs locate the axle, as well as support the weight. The problems arise when the spring and shackle bushings are worn(at which point, they should be replaced, regardless of weather you're running a track bar or not.). With worn bushings, the springs can then move side to side (pivot around the bushings), which will let the axle move side to side, and make the steering feel loose or unresponsive.

For example, I'm running a 3" suspension lift, and removed both track bars, as well as the sway bar, about 5 years ago, and aside from a better ride on the road, and better flex off road, there was no change in the way it drives.
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Unread 10-15-2010, 12:46 PM   #160
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and what do you mean by this?

"My 94 yj has a nice turn to the right every once in awhile."

the trac bar won't do this
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Unread 10-15-2010, 12:50 PM   #161
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To answer the original question, I don't think the bolt threads into anything. As far as I know it's just a bolt and nut so any crade 8 the right size will work. Most likely a 1/2 or 7/16 x about 3"



and yes, ditch it anyway.
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Unread 10-15-2010, 12:56 PM   #162
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maybe i was misinformed by a jeep friend of mine. and after reading alot of the posts that have been posted it does make sense that the trackbar is not the cause of my issues.

Let me better explain the issue in greater detail. When i am driving at highway speeds it feels like the wheels turn towards the right and then i have to overcompensate the steering to straighten myself out. It is a pretty scary situation when this happens at about 45+ mph.

I am trying to determine what is causing this then if it isnt the track bar. The leaf springs were new with the lift as well as the bushings. It has gotten maybe 3500 miles in the last year and a half and i can't imagine either of these "wearing" out.

I will check the tie rod ends but when I first started having this problem I checked them and they appeared to be ok.

Does anyone have any other suggestions. Thanks for the responses so far. Maybe i can just pull the track bar off and see how it rides once i get the steering/veering off problem fixed.
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Unread 10-15-2010, 01:05 PM   #163
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sounds like the alignment is off on the caster or toe settings. check your steering damper also
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Unread 10-15-2010, 01:13 PM   #164
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Did your lift come with longer shackles?

Also, when checking your suspension/steering for wear, its easier if you have a helper slowly turn the steering wheel back and forth while you look at the components. Sometimes the TRE's or bushings will look OK, but when you turn the wheel they shift/move in their mounts.
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Unread 10-15-2010, 01:52 PM   #165
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How tall is the lift?

it kinda sounds like you are experiencing "bump steer".
can you snap a pic of you front end, specifically your drag link angle, and pitman arm area, and post it here.

bump steer is usually caused by an overly steep drag link angle (at least on YJ's anyway). If the drag link is angled to much, whenever you go over a bump, the up/down motion of the body/frame, in relation to the axles, will "steer" the front tires, without any driver input.

also, as already mentioned, if you have really long shackles, they can throw your caster angle off, which would cause the wheels to want to follow the road (wander), rather than track straight.
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