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Unread 05-12-2011, 08:41 PM   #1
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Front spring swap, and OTT high steer..

And so it begins... but will take a few days, gotta work the next 2 and got sundayoff....

spring swap first...

straigh up remove and replace... this was easy mostly... just had it apart last year so it came apatt in short order, new ubolts, reused the bushings, those were new last year.... love to say it was a ***** to get it apart, but yaaaa, no.... the bushings and everything just fell out....

for my app, the shims need to come out... so clamp the spring and remove the cneter pin.... remove the shim and bolt together again, for SOA you will have to cut the cneter bolt down as well...

for removal prettystraight up, remove the rear hanger bolt, I unbolted my 3 shackle bolts and jsut used myhands to pull them out of hte springs and hangers, and removed the springs.... reuse bushingsand sleeves... rebolt.







been lots of talk of this lately.......

OME makes 2 HD springs, when you ask for hte HD you will get the 14s..... the below pic, the dirty ones, are the 14, they area 4 pack.... the 36R is hte 5 pack... HD whcih I need for SOA... I reordered last year after I bent 2 and did not SPECIFY the 36, just HD,so I got the 14, they were already starting to invert SOA, the rear I have are 36, thiose are holding nice with SOA...



see the diffference.... 4 and 5.... #popcorn

springs on and onto the actual OTT....









rofl

So where to start... well if you NOT swapping springs all you ned to do is remove your tire, caliper, and hub assembly.... the later being the hardest, again I just changed mydriver side ujoints and seals couple years ago so I started here... it came apart nice and easy, with the help of a 4 foot breaker bar....

steering and drag link removed...







you could do this now or after the actual mounting of the unit on the knuckle... dont really matter...

one advantage I will mention here to leaving you drag link and Sh$t on is there is a good writeup on here
somewhere of how to use a socket and the steerign to remove the hub assemblywithout beating on it with a hammer, I did this when I did myujoints but forgot about it till it came tiem to do hte beating part.... #****er



for the hub assembly, remove hte 3 bolts on the back side of the unit... mine was obviously changed out at one point.. I had 3 9/16 bolts on the pass side, and 13 mil, 12 point on the driver side.... either way the impact made short work of them....

anyhow it came off not so bad..





anyhow the whole point of this is to get the dust sheild off....



then test it out....



WTF. mine has a gap about 3 mil between the knuckle and the unit... but READ THE DISTRUCTIONS.... I was freaking out.... they give ya shims, I guess some wranglers vary in this department.... whew....

some grinding is involved here to smooth out the ridge on the knuckle....

got it grinded and snuged on the backside....



gotta drill ou the top and tap it... but its late Im beat, and thats all for today...

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Unread 05-14-2011, 07:35 PM   #2
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Excellent write up! Thanks again for the help on my questions on the OM EMU 2.5" lift kit. I'm going with their HD kit based on your reccomendations since I'm not doing a SOA, the 14's should be just fine.

BTW the pics you posted in my thread of the flex on your rig were SICK man!!! Awesome!
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Unread 05-14-2011, 08:06 PM   #3
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^^ you will be very happy I ran my 14 SUA for years, absolutely loved them..... as did most everyone else..... watch your brake lines, the flex is good, andeven with a 2.5" I almost snapped a line at full drop, my shock bottomed out first luckily.... so if you go and flex it out... watch that..
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Unread 05-15-2011, 05:14 AM   #4
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Thanks man.
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Unread 05-18-2011, 09:12 AM   #5
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MORE DONE....

Got up to heeps place to help/watch Bones put his rig together.... mostly help, man I tell ya, go up to chit chat and ya get put to work.... #****er

anyhow, bones helped ME, slap my drg link together, and yesterday I got in mocked up and into place.... just all needs lock tite now and bolted back together.....

Well started to get it back together and got as far as putting the rotors and in my infinite wisdom I putthe dust sheilds on backwards

so ya, screw it Im done for the day.... man gotta rip the hub off again..... PAY ATTENTION......



Oh read lots of threads of ppl breaking their pitman pullers, so I thought about going to buy one, but working at a dealership, I just whipped down there and borrowed their ginormous one.... no breaking this *****... and this was the 'small' one, we got one there for 5 tons and the like...





KINDA SEE HERE WHAT i USED TO HAVE....



Then after all this I get to replace a driver side axle seal, and replace my oil pan seal, and do the fluids, diffs,

dont ya all just love jeeps.......

EDIT........ YES IM WELDING IT WHEN IM DONE........
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1990 YJ. SOA, OME 36R 3.5" lift springs, OME 5/8 greasable shackles, OTT high steer, Custom cage, team Rush, Posi, 33 TSL swampers
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Unread 05-18-2011, 11:08 AM   #6
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My OTT install cost me the passenger side seal swap.....
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Unread 05-20-2011, 10:04 AM   #7
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well finally got it done yesterday.....

holy snikies, what a difference..... gotta get aalignment done yet, but wow... now when I turn the wheel it actually turns right away, instead of a delay... lol...

nice and tight... I still have to get over it in my mind that it is bolted on and its a 'trust' thing right now so its slow going, getting it welded on Sunday, but wanted to get a couple days driving in to let it all settle before I do that, then retorque everything and weld it up...

anyone with SOA or big lifts and no highsteer, do not post thread about bad handling until you do a highsteer. if you still have bad handling AFTER a highsteer then post... this is the cause of your **** handling for the most part.

mine is tight now, does NOT wander, and NO bumbsteer AT ALL.... like I said still needs an alignment but tracks pretty straight as it is

thaks againg for hte help guys, had some questions along the way
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family roll bar swap/upgrade..

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1990 YJ. SOA, OME 36R 3.5" lift springs, OME 5/8 greasable shackles, OTT high steer, Custom cage, team Rush, Posi, 33 TSL swampers
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Just received my OTT in the mail the other day. Local shop will install for $270, which is a bit steep. Guess ill try to tackle it myself. This write up will help immensely. Thanks.
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Just received my OTT in the mail the other day. Local shop will install for $270, which is a bit steep. Guess ill try to tackle it myself. This write up will help immensely. Thanks.
meh its not taht hard.... go slow.... make sure when u drill the knuckle your straight up and dwon, I got one on an angle a bit as its a bit hard to get at...thats the hardet part......the rest is dissamble and reassemble, any questions pm me
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family roll bar swap/upgrade..

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/f...grade-1054753/

1990 YJ. SOA, OME 36R 3.5" lift springs, OME 5/8 greasable shackles, OTT high steer, Custom cage, team Rush, Posi, 33 TSL swampers
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Unread 02-09-2013, 07:17 AM   #11
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A word of caution with the OTT system you installed.
I ran the same setup on my YJ. On mine the bolts that attach the brackets to the to the knuckles would either back out or snap off due to the stress on the bracket. The bracket would then start cracking apart where the two unit bearing bolts hold it on.
Mine failed 3 times.
Luckily I caught it before driving on the road.
I ended up welding the brackets to the knuckles.

Please keep a close eye on your setups for this problem.

Here is a thread where others have had the similar problems.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/r...-safe-1200416/

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Unread 02-09-2013, 08:04 AM   #12
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^^ yes 35 tire and bigger they suggst welding the knuckle to avoid this....

you didnt weld it and u have 35...... see the problem..... not the OTT you didnt weld it the first time, says right in the instructions

dont beat on the product cause u didnt read
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family roll bar swap/upgrade..

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/f...grade-1054753/

1990 YJ. SOA, OME 36R 3.5" lift springs, OME 5/8 greasable shackles, OTT high steer, Custom cage, team Rush, Posi, 33 TSL swampers
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