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post #1 of 14 Old 10-01-2013, 02:02 PM Thread Starter
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Front Shackle Reversal

Has anyone done this, reversed the shackles ? Does it work well? Is it worth it ?

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post #2 of 14 Old 10-01-2013, 02:26 PM
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IMO no, it is not worth it. When the springs compress with the shackles on the front, the front axle get's pushed slightly forward helping the tires grip the surface that your trying to climb.

If the shackles were reversed, when the springs compress the axle gets pushed slightly backward which is counter productive. That's my $0.02

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post #3 of 14 Old 10-01-2013, 02:45 PM
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No I am not running them but from what I have read the Jeep will ride much better with a reverse shackle set up.
Another plus is when wheeling in rocks you would have less tendency to bend a front spring. Since the front of the springs do not have the shackle when you come up to a large rock ,or really anything that your shackle would hit, you would not be pushing the spring back.

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post #4 of 14 Old 10-01-2013, 08:43 PM
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SR's work great. I have had MORE's SR on my YJ for over 10 years and I have no complaints or issues. I wheel with guys that all types of set ups, and loss of traction due to spring movement is something I have never had any problems with.
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post #5 of 14 Old 10-01-2013, 09:30 PM
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Do you daily drive the Jeep or is it primarily used for wheeling? If it's an off road toy, the reversal would give you a better approach and most likely more effective droop, and a softer ride. On road, they can add to bump steer problems depending on how stiff your springs are.

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post #6 of 14 Old 10-02-2013, 04:39 AM
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i want one but haven;t gotten one yet but my buddy, (who is the owner of Trucker's World, oldest 4x4 shop in corpus christi texas) had one on his yj back when he had a jeep and he said it made a huge improvement on road.

I don't feel like working on anything at this time so i sold my yj.
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post #7 of 14 Old 10-02-2013, 06:13 AM
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It gives a better ride on the road because it lets the axle move back a tiny bit as you hit a bump. Where as with the shackles in front the axle is push forward ever so slightly which amplifies the bumps in the road. Traction loss is negligable. It will not cause enough traction loss to really notice. However there is a reason Jeep put them in the front and that is because they felt it would give better traction. With that said just get a quality set of springs and you wont need it. My BDS springs ride very very nice. I have 3 ruptured disc's in my back and I still ride comfortable. I can put coffee in my cup holder and it even stays in the cup until I drink it.

1995 YJ. 2 inch BDS Spring lift. 1 inch shackle lift. 1.25 inch JKS Body Lift 33x12.5x15's. Engo 10,000 pound winch.

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. It started with a $200 axle, and a few thousand dollars later I was done :)
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diagnose the real issue before you start going all Obama on it - spending mad cash you'll need for other important things.

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this is also my second set of RC springs this year. I'd rather spend the money again and get something that will last.
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post #8 of 14 Old 10-02-2013, 08:40 AM Thread Starter
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good stuff guys.... It is a driver(not daily) and I do take it mudding and in the trails... Right now it has some stiff a$$ 4" springs in it and it ride like a lumber wagon..I just started tearing it apart for the winter to rebuild again, I think will look into less of a lift spring, maybe stock or 2" lift and go SOA to keep my height...
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post #9 of 14 Old 10-02-2013, 08:43 AM
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SOA on stock springs gets you 5.5 inches of lift and you have a whole new set of issues to deal with. Get some quality springs. BDS, OME or RE. It will ride much better require less work and be $1500+ cheaper than a proper SOA.

1995 YJ. 2 inch BDS Spring lift. 1 inch shackle lift. 1.25 inch JKS Body Lift 33x12.5x15's. Engo 10,000 pound winch.

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I gave the Jeep the required offering of $$, sweat, and blood, and everything works fine now. -- Jim
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. It started with a $200 axle, and a few thousand dollars later I was done :)
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diagnose the real issue before you start going all Obama on it - spending mad cash you'll need for other important things.

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this is also my second set of RC springs this year. I'd rather spend the money again and get something that will last.
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post #10 of 14 Old 10-02-2013, 10:00 AM
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I drive my jeep all the time street and trail. It is nice to be able to drive 85 down the freeway.
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post #11 of 14 Old 10-02-2013, 10:57 AM
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Yep

I have the Full Traction SRS with BDS springs (2" front 3.5" rear). I drive on road 99.9 % of the time. It take the harshness out of bumps, NO bumpsteer, tracks great. I like it...YMMV. It was well worth it to me. I can let go of the wheel and it goes straight down the road....good luck...
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post #12 of 14 Old 10-02-2013, 11:14 AM
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I drive my jeep all the time street and trail. It is nice to be able to drive 85 down the freeway.
I got mine to a little over 100 mph the other day. I then promply **** myself and slowed back down. Jeeps and triple digits do not go together in my book.

What does driving 85 on the freeway have to do with SRS anyway?

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I gave the Jeep the required offering of $$, sweat, and blood, and everything works fine now. -- Jim
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. It started with a $200 axle, and a few thousand dollars later I was done :)
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diagnose the real issue before you start going all Obama on it - spending mad cash you'll need for other important things.

Ask me how I know...
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this is also my second set of RC springs this year. I'd rather spend the money again and get something that will last.
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post #13 of 14 Old 10-02-2013, 12:11 PM Thread Starter
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ok, let me give a few more details.... currently I have 4" springs(SUA) w/ 2" extra shackles and i run on 35's with stock axles.... I'm now just starting a axle swap to D44 in front and 9" in rear. I was thinking since I'm going SOA I would go to a stock spring with stock shackle length, that should keep about my same height and give me a better ride, but since I'm going frame off I figured this would be a good time to do the spring reversal IF it is worth it.
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post #14 of 14 Old 10-02-2013, 12:59 PM
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SRS has a few up and downs I ran the MORE setup for about 7-8years.

Pros
-smooths out the ride on the street
-extends wheelbase 2-3"
-rides better on mild trails

Cons
-you'll need a big money long travel front shaft togo with it
-brake dive thats can be minimized by adjusting ypu shackle angle but is still way worse than stock setup
-on steep ledges creates front wheelhop
-shackle mounts will still break off if hit hard

All in all id skip it.
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