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Unread 02-23-2009, 07:20 PM   #31
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this is true... anyone have a used one to sell me ???

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Unread 02-23-2009, 07:24 PM   #32
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The small wire feed welders you see at home depot and Lowes, usually Lincoln. These weld with flux core wire(you don't need gas) and will work for what you want to do. Price is around $300-400 new. One step up would be one of the Hobart 125s or 140s. Anything less hire someone to do the work for you.
the Lincoln i bought at HD was said to NOT be an actual Lincoln by a local welding supply shop. Its the Weldpak 175HD (220V), they say no such model exists from Lincoln, idk how to really explain it. BUT the welder kicks a**. I make stuff all the time at home and even use it at work when the 110v just doesnt have enough user comfort for safety as far as holding. In my opinion of using a 110 mig and a 220 mig, the 220 seems to weld "cleaner"......maybe its just the "placebo effect"
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Unread 02-23-2009, 07:27 PM   #33
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this is true... anyone have a used one to sell me ???
the 110v Craftsman I have is around $150. then you gotta get argon (they usually rent the tank and you have to buy the gas-only seems expensive up front.)
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Unread 02-23-2009, 07:53 PM   #34
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as for the drivers side mount... do you think i will need to drop the steering box to get to it to clean the frame and weld with a stick welder or mig welder?
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Unread 02-23-2009, 07:58 PM   #35
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the Lincoln i bought at HD was said to NOT be an actual Lincoln by a local welding supply shop. Its the Weldpak 175HD (220V), they say no such model exists from Lincoln, idk how to really explain it. BUT the welder kicks a**. I make stuff all the time at home and even use it at work when the 110v just doesnt have enough user comfort for safety as far as holding. In my opinion of using a 110 mig and a 220 mig, the 220 seems to weld "cleaner"......maybe its just the "placebo effect"
220 welders weld much better and cost much more. The millermatic 250 I have at work is much easier to make a nice weld but cost thousands more than the small lincoln or hobart welders. For what they are those little welders are fairly easy to learn on and will hold for welding the thin steel used on these brackets. The best welder for cost would be something like the handler 187 which cost in the $700 range.
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Unread 02-25-2009, 05:46 PM   #36
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220 welders weld much better and cost much more. The millermatic 250 I have at work is much easier to make a nice weld but cost thousands more than the small lincoln or hobart welders. For what they are those little welders are fairly easy to learn on and will hold for welding the thin steel used on these brackets. The best welder for cost would be something like the handler 187 which cost in the $700 range.
i'm not putting any of the other welder brands down, and yes the little ones are good to start with especially to learn on and for sheet metal (the reason im not ditching my 110). For my lincoln I pai about 600 without the gas.
Yes the little welders will penetrate the frame thickness, so a cheaper 110 is fine too.

OP-> the cleaner the metal is (no rust or pain or other crud) the better the weld-appearance, penetration, and less grinding. I've never had a spring mount break on my Jeep and im not out there right now to see whats involved in the procedure. If it looks like you need to move the steering box outta the way then do it. Do it right the first time and take your time! its a major part of the suspension you are reattaching and a major safety factor to you and others on the road if the weld gives out.
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