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post #1 of 14 Old 10-29-2009, 11:14 AM Thread Starter
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Frame repair; cost, issues, questions

So I found a rust hole between the tabs of my rear upper shock mounts. It's probably 1/4" at the moment (don't wanna dig out more).

Has anyone had this done professionally? How much did they charge and how long (days, weeks, months, etc) did it take from start to finish?

Is this repair going to require removing the tub from the frame? Because if it get's to that, I figure that I might as well simply replace the frame.

Do you think this is something a non-experienced welder could do? My buddy has a welder he just purchased but I've never welded before and the last thing I want to happen is to take my Jeep apart, cut apart the frame, and not be able to get it back together.

In fact, It doesn't even sound that difficult to weld it, it's just in a very poor location as far as working-space goes.


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post #2 of 14 Old 10-29-2009, 11:37 AM
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Any pics? I live in western ma and I have done frame repair on mine. Mine was rotted just behind the rear spring shackle. I fixed that without taking off the body. Where are you located? Maybe I can help.

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Sorry to thread-jack (I also have a frame lying around with the same problem) buy yjjeepster where in Western MA are you located? I'm in hatfield.

EDIT, also I have some welding experience and could probably also lend you a hand!
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post #4 of 14 Old 10-29-2009, 11:45 AM
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I'm in greenfield. I work right down the road from you. I'm the manager at napa on deerfield st.

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like this one?

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/f...estion-431601/

I cut out the bad part and welded in 3/16 plate on three sides, plus a piece on the inside.

not a hard job but before doing it make sure your weling buddy can lay down a good bead with good penetration.

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post #6 of 14 Old 10-29-2009, 11:51 AM
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Don't know where in Ma you are but Kent's welding is the best around where I live. He works on YJ frames a few times a week.
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like this one?

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/f...estion-431601/

I cut out the bad part and welded in 3/16 plate on three sides, plus a piece on the inside.

not a hard job but before doing it make sure your weling buddy can lay down a good bead with good penetration.
Similar, but on the other side. It could be on both sides.

But it's right on the inside edge so I would probably need to cut it to the backside of the frame.

I like a little north of Boston, MA.

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hey zerogravity

where did you end up having the work done? were you happy with the job/cost? am looking at needing some welding done on my TJ now also. thanks!
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I just finished repairing the same area on my 88. It's easy to see the holes in the top of the frame, but what you can't see until you take the old mounts off, is the holes on the inside of the frame. Whoever designed those mounts must have owned a body shop. What I did to repair it was to build new shock hangers using 8" of 3x2.5x3/16 angle and a piece of 1 1/4" round bar. One 2.5" leg of the angle goes on top and the other goes on the inside of the from. I used a piece of 3x3/16 flat bar on the outside of the frame, mounted high enough to weld it to the angle bar. In addition to welding the entire perimeter, I drilled holes and plug welded both pieces. I had the rear end out, so access wasn't that bad. The drivers side was a little tricky with the gas and brake lines in the way.
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So I found a rust hole between the tabs of my rear upper shock mounts. It's probably 1/4" at the moment (don't wanna dig out more).

Has anyone had this done professionally? How much did they charge and how long (days, weeks, months, etc) did it take from start to finish?

I did my own. Seacoast NH

Is this repair going to require removing the tub from the frame? Because if it get's to that, I figure that I might as well simply replace the frame.

No, can be done with tub on. fuel line can get in the way and helps to move them

Do you think this is something a non-experienced welder could do? My buddy has a welder he just purchased but I've never welded before and the last thing I want to happen is to take my Jeep apart, cut apart the frame, and not be able to get it back together.

Yes, with some practice. if it fails a shock mount is not a catastrophic failure, so it would be a good test of your skills

In fact, It doesn't even sound that difficult to weld it, it's just in a very poor location as far as working-space goes.
Yeah sucks in that spot

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auto rust tech has a lot of frame repair parts. easy to work with.
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auto rust tech has a lot of frame repair parts. easy to work with.
Not for the shock mount

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post #13 of 14 Old 09-16-2013, 07:31 AM
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I believe I bought my new shock mounts from 4wd or Morris. Like $20 a piece.

A little bit of grinding and I welded mine on no problem, but I had my tub off anyways.
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post #14 of 14 Old 09-18-2013, 04:53 PM
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Yes they do have them for left and right. Have used them.
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