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post #1 of 15 Old 08-16-2011, 11:30 AM Thread Starter
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Engine quits intermittently!!!

95 wrangler 2.5L....First happened a month ago, first drive of the morning 4 blocks from home engine died. Would crank but not start. after sitting a minute or so it would start and run while sitting still, but die when I drive. Pulled it home, next morning bought a fuel filter (quick and easy optomism) before installing it everything ran normal, after installation, test driving around the neighborhood, hit speed bump, died, started back up and has run without issue for a month.

Yesterday, hit bump on the way into gas station, quit. Put gas in, started and ran fine for 20 minut drive, till I hit a rough road, died, again, would crank but not start, after 1 or two minutes, started fine and ran 3 blocks to friends house where it now sits while I work.

Any ideas where to start with this hard to duplicate intermittent problem!!! PLEASE!!

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post #2 of 15 Old 08-16-2011, 12:09 PM
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Maybe pull the batt cable while running and see if the alternator keeps it running. Could be a loose bad cable on the battery as well enough to crank but not enough to start. Happened to me once she would crank and crank. Turned out to be my negative cable wasn't tight enough to the post.

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post #3 of 15 Old 08-16-2011, 12:24 PM
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If hitting a bumb is doing it then you need to get under the hood and under the chasis and shake the harness while its running to see whats killing it. Make sure you check the harness going back to the tank. It could also be fuel. Hook up a pressure guage to the fuel rail. It should have 31-39 psi. Drive it until it happens.
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post #4 of 15 Old 08-16-2011, 12:26 PM Thread Starter
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Battery cables seem good and when it dies I still seem to have electric elsewhere. Do to the intermittent nature of the problem, I have yet to determine if it is fuel or spark. I will say that I hear the pump run when I turn the key, even when it wont start for that 1 or 2 minutes.
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post #5 of 15 Old 08-16-2011, 12:28 PM Thread Starter
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I have jigled the wires to the fuel pump, that had been an issue 6 years ago, but again, that all seems to be good and the pump runs, I plan on checking the fuel pressure when I get home tomorrow.
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post #6 of 15 Old 08-16-2011, 12:30 PM
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I would think it was electrical grounding issue. You could check your fuel preassure and have someone bounce on the bumper and see of it dips. That should eliminate the fuel being the culprit.

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post #7 of 15 Old 08-16-2011, 12:33 PM Thread Starter
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Mythought on the grounding issue is why would it go from cranking but not being able to start to starting with out further being nudged or bumped.
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post #8 of 15 Old 08-16-2011, 12:35 PM Thread Starter
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BTW, thanks for your advice! Been racking my brain with this all night. (Flying coast to coast)
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post #9 of 15 Old 08-16-2011, 12:36 PM
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If you are hearing the fuel pump then I'm betting under hood. The coil wiring, crank sensor, or O2 sensor.
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post #10 of 15 Old 08-16-2011, 12:41 PM Thread Starter
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Would the 95 computer system give a code for the crank or o2 sensor, haven't put it on a reader yet?
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post #11 of 15 Old 08-16-2011, 01:01 PM
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You dont need a reader to check codes, just cycle the key:
http://www.jeepforum.com/wiki/index....k_Engine_Codes
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/s...eaning-677141/

The answer to your question is a definitive....maybe. The diagnostics were in the infant stage and are OBDI. They have ranges they look for and if something fails out of the range it will throw a fault code. The problem is that sometime things fail in range and dont set a code. The newer OBDII starts looking at rates of change to detect just that kind of issue. So, if you have any codes other than the usually 12,33, and 55 you have an issue. If you dont have a code and its running bad....you have an issue. The bottom line is, you have an issue. LOL
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post #12 of 15 Old 08-16-2011, 01:15 PM Thread Starter
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As always you are all. Very helpful, please keep the great advice coming, but the bottom line is it is hard to test or trouble shoot from 2000 miles away, I'm sure one of you have the answer and I will fix it tomorrow (optomist)!
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post #13 of 15 Old 08-17-2011, 02:08 PM
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I had the same problem with my 91 yj i replaced the crank position sensor and never did it again. I got it from Autozone i hear it's a common problem. Hope this helps.
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post #14 of 15 Old 08-18-2011, 06:24 AM
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I had the same problem with my 91 yj i replaced the crank position sensor and never did it again. I got it from Autozone i hear it's a common problem. Hope this helps.
I also have a '91 YJ, so I'll keep this in mind in the event I ever experience the same issue.
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post #15 of 15 Old 08-18-2011, 07:43 AM
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Also if you have a loose connection and can't locate it try looking for it at night with no light and do the shake, wiggle, bounce test since it will probably arc and seeing that in the dark would be real easy
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