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Unread 04-03-2009, 03:29 AM   #1
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Direct bolt in Seat Swap, 87-89 seat risers different than 90-95

I have read all the seat swap threads I could find and the Wiki page. All the direct bolt into seat swaps for YJ's dont' apply to 87-89 YJ's. I tried some 95 grand am, 97 cavalier seats, 96 sunbird seats, grand prix, etc. I took my 89 seat rails to the junk yard and none of the them are direct bolt on. All the seats rail mounting holes are like much longer than my 89 YJ rails mounting points. If I have to fab up some brackets I am going to get some different seats besides the ones listed. Does anyone have any idea what year/model seats will be a DIRECT BOLT in for a 87-89 YJ
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This is all I got on seat swaps;
http://www.jeepaholics.com/tech/must...stangseats.htm

Haven't done this yet, so I don't even know if all the info is correct. He's saying that all 1976 to 1995 CJ & YJ seat risers are the same.

This swap looks easy, & I may do it & have a local upholstery lady recover them with thick vinyl to make them water resistant.

Good luck with you swap. You should try to find someone nearby who has a 90-95 YJ & see if their riser bracket is different from yours.
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I have read all the seat swap threads I could find and the Wiki page. All the direct bolt into seat swaps for YJ's dont' apply to 87-89 YJ's. I tried some 95 grand am, 97 cavalier seats, 96 sunbird seats, grand prix, etc. I took my 89 seat rails to the junk yard and none of the them are direct bolt on. All the seats rail mounting holes are like much longer than my 89 YJ rails mounting points. If I have to fab up some brackets I am going to get some different seats besides the ones listed. Does anyone have any idea what year/model seats will be a DIRECT BOLT in for a 87-89 YJ
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I am going to look into it but I am fairly certain it is the seat sliders that directly bolt to them not the risers.

And for those that ask, here is the jeepforum/wiki page on this: http://www.jeepforum.com/wiki/index..../YJ_Seat_swaps


EDIT, after reading thru many,many posts, I have figured out that you are correct. The '87-'90 seat slider/riser is different than the '91-'95 setup. I will add this to the FAQ.
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Ok thanks all your posts helped me a lot. I wonder if there are any direct bolt in swaps for the 90 and down YJ seat rails/risers?
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Okay, in order to further "muddy the waters", I was under the impression that the '87-'90 risers/sliders had the same bolt patterns as the '91-'95 models, and that the only difference was that the driver's seat on the early models had the "tumble & fold" feature like the passenger seat and the later models didn't because their driver's seatback actually tilts forward instead of being "fixed" in the upright position.

Can somebody clear this up for my feeble mind?

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I know on mine I bought some Cavi seats and it was not a direct bolt. I had to get a couple pieces of flat steel to get it to bolt to the factory risers. The bolt holes were off slightly. I would say about a inch, but a inch is still to much.

I also know on mine that it has "tumble and fold" method like mean max said. I don't know about the later years though.
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My 1988 has a forward fold drivers seat (Tumble and fold rear seat)
My 1994 DOES NOT have a forward fold drivers seat (Tumble and fold rear seat)
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My 1994 DOES NOT have a forward fold drivers seat (Tumble and fold rear seat)
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My 1988 has a forward fold drivers seat (Tumble and fold rear seat)
My 1994 DOES NOT have a forward fold drivers seat (Tumble and fold rear seat)
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Same here
Which is exactly what I was saying.

But replacement seats are sold as "bolt-in" for OE risers/sliders on ALL years, so the bolt pattern should be the same, no matter whether it has the:

A) '87-'90 tumble & fold driver/passenger risers

OR

B) '91-'95 fixed driver side/tumble & fold passenger




Or so it would seem, to me anyway.

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