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Unread 08-23-2005, 06:28 PM   #1
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Died at stop light...

Died, didn't sputter or give any other indication that it was gonna stop. Tried to start it up again thinking it just stalled... but it never has before. It just turned over like the ignition wasn't firing, it was and to be sure it was enough I replaced the ignition coil. Same results, engined turned over... and over.... and over.... you get the picture. Checked to be sure the connections were all there, wires were all there and the double checked the distributer cap.

So. It's in a parking lot of a gas station stripped to the bone, all I left in it was the back carpet.

Any thoughts as to what might be the problem? Or even questions of clarification?

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Unread 08-23-2005, 06:55 PM   #2
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getting spark .....is it getting gas?
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Unread 08-23-2005, 06:57 PM   #3
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Your ignition module has gone bad. It is a unit about the size of an 8 track mounted to the inside of the left front fender just under the coolant bottle. They are about 40 bucks at most autoparts stores. It takes about 5 minutes to replace.
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Unread 08-23-2005, 06:59 PM   #4
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Can you hear your fuel pump when you first turn the key on? Another thing, the ignition and fuel pump relays on my 94 are the same as the horn and abs relays, swap them.
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Unread 08-23-2005, 07:17 PM   #5
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If it's a 6-cyl, there's no fuel pump relay, nothing to hear. Mechanical fuel pump. I'd agree with the ignition module, though.
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My favorite answer...the fuel filter. Cheap place to start. Do you know if you're getting spark? Fuel?
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Unread 08-23-2005, 09:42 PM   #7
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Your ignition module has gone bad. It is a unit about the size of an 8 track mounted to the inside of the left front fender just under the coolant bottle. They are about 40 bucks at most autoparts stores. It takes about 5 minutes to replace.
Triple X hit it right on the nose there. Sounds like the exact problem I had a year ago. I vote ignition module.
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Unread 08-24-2005, 08:58 AM   #8
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Thanks for the replys. I'll be looking into an ignition module.

meant to mention this earlier but it's a 4 cyl.

I am getting spark, but I am not sure if I'm getting fuel, I'll double check that once I get back to gas station parking lot.

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Unread 08-28-2005, 10:11 AM   #9
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Hm... I changed the ignition control module, ignition coil, fuel filter and fuel pump and it still wont start.

On a 4cyl how would I go about checking to see if it's getting fuel?

Are there other things it could be?

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Unread 08-28-2005, 08:02 PM   #10
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I'm not positive about the 4 cyl. but if it's the same as the I6 just take off your air cleaner and as you hit the throttle on the carb. look down the carb and you should actually be able to see the fuel enter the carb in a mist. Also if I were you I'd check the timing because when I first bought my jeep the timing was loose so when i hit a hard bump the timing was thrown way off and the jeep kicked out on me and i couldn't figure out what it was until I checked my timing once again. Good luck with it, keep us posted.
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Dump a little bit of gas down the carb throat; if it tries to start you have a fuel problem. Quickest way since you are not at home.
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Unread 08-29-2005, 02:02 AM   #12
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Dump a little bit of gas down the carb throat; if it tries to start you have a fuel problem. Quickest way since you are not at home.
It ain't got no carb...........
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Unread 08-29-2005, 03:17 AM   #13
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disconnect fuel line where ever it connects to the system at the motor(i dont have a book infront of me to know where it is on a 4 cylin) put end of line into a jug of some sort turn the key to the on postion for a couple seconds....if you are getting fuel it will be in the jug.......
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Unread 08-29-2005, 10:54 AM   #14
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All right, I disconnected the fuel supply line and it's dry, no fuel. I have changed the fuel pump so are we looking at something electrical and if so, what could it be?

I know all the connecters are in place on the pump, and the plug is fastened securely.

My wife helped me tow it home so I have a bit more freedom while working on it.

Thanks for the advice so far. I'm learning a lot.

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Unread 08-29-2005, 11:08 AM   #15
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dumb suggestion.....but you have checked all the fuses, right??

Next would be fuel filter.

Can you hear the fuel pump at all? If not, check the voltage at the fuel pump plug. No voltage means electrical issue and that could be anything from a short in a wire to the computer. But check fuses first, then fuel filter, then voltage at pump maybe??

Im no mechanic but that's what I would do
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