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post #1 of 6 Old 07-28-2007, 10:25 AM Thread Starter
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D44 Swap in? pros N Cons?

i'm considering putting one in, i've heard of people doing this... i have a yj, what did the yj's have and what would be involved in this swap? what are the advantages? disadvantages? thanks!



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post #2 of 6 Old 07-28-2007, 10:32 AM
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Your considering putting in a dana 44 in the front or rear?

They come from the factory with a dana 35, your best bet for an easy swap in 44 would be one from an XJ, then move some spring perches and should be done. There was one on ebay for like $275

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post #3 of 6 Old 07-28-2007, 11:56 AM
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Basically bolt in. Welding of spring perches is your major concern. Advantage of disc brakes if you find a newer one.

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yeah, there's one for sale for a hundred bucks out of an isuzu rodeo (i think)... i've heard this is a popular mod but i don't know much about it, hence the nube question thread.


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post #5 of 6 Old 07-28-2007, 12:40 PM
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in the rear a 44 from xj is you best bet, you need to do the spring perches , shock mounts , and drive shaft, need to be cutted arround an inch. the U joints are the same
over all an easy project, exactly the same width and bolt pattern, and bigger brakes. (I didt it so I know what im talking about)

in the front, if you whant to go with a stock low pinion dana 44, or a rubicon axle, I think is a waste of time and money if you have a Hi pinion dana 30.

Facts.
dana 30 and dana 44 pinion neck diameter is the same (1.185")

a reverse cut ring and pinion (hi pinion) is about 20-30% stronger than a low pinion. putting it in the same ball park than a 44 gears.
(Hi pinion is cut for a front axle, a low pinion is a rear axle gear spinning in reverse, using the cosat part of the teeth to apply power instead of the drive part)

the axle shafts in a stock dana 44 (chevy, ford...) have a diameter of 1.088" at the neck down section.(weakest point) a dana 30 has a minor diameter of 1.145". YES THE AXLES IN A STOCK 44 ARE WEAKER.

a rubicon axle uses a low pinion same tube diameter and same outer axle than a dana 30. over all problably the same.

the only way to have a stronger 44 is to have a custom one with hi pinion, after market shafts.............. LOts Of money................

so build your hi pinion 30 with a good locker or lsd (true tracs use the similar internals in a dana 44 and a 30), axle shafts with bigger u joints (95 yj or tj, xj or chromoly),
and and axle truss if you like to jump. and call it good.

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post #6 of 6 Old 07-28-2007, 09:30 PM
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xj would be the easiest.
you can do any of these 44's in the rear with various required changes:
SJ centered 44 (waggy)
SJ model 20 (waggy)
passport or rodeo (plus cause it should have discs)
scout II

If you plan on having any type of real power I would scrap the dana 30. it is not stronger than a stock 44 especially the 3 pcs. garbage they put in the YJ. I went through 3 30's for bent housings at the shift motor. twisted knuckles and a slew of snapped shafts. I will tell you from experience that a d30 with 35's and 350sbc will not last long.

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