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Unread 02-15-2012, 09:22 PM   #1
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D44 and D60 question...

Don't know a ton about axles and axle swaps, but I'm thinking I'm keeping my jeep for a long while so I'm starting to look at engine and axle swaps. Wondering if these axles would work for my jeep and after buying, what kind of expenses am I looking at to make me ready to be put in?

http://waco.craigslist.org/pts/2834469426.html

Also, is this a good price for both if they will work? Thanks in advance gents!

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Unread 02-15-2012, 10:31 PM   #2
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They are not going to be a direct bolt it if that is what you are asking. You will need to remove brackets and weld new spring perches and shock tabs on. What size tires are you planning on running? With a 60 in the rear 37" tire is almost to small for ground clearance for the diff so you need to be thinking real hard about running 40s. Is this your daily driver? If so that four banger is not going to like this setup.

It looks like they are probably junkyard pulls. So plan on complete rebuilds. Figure you will spend 2k minimum to get them under your Jeep. That's if you keep them full width and do not cut them down.
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Unread 02-15-2012, 10:39 PM   #3
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Whoa... Thanks for the info! May as well delete this thread lol. I'll just wait on an 8.8
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Unread 02-15-2012, 10:47 PM   #4
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Look for the 8.8 or a dana 44
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Unread 02-16-2012, 06:07 PM   #5
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Yeah, I have those exact axles... full width HP44/HD60 rear. Those look like they can use a rebuild, then you have spring perches, shock tabs and steering. You can use your springs and even keep the factory mounts. The pricey part will be the steering, might as well go hi steer. You can get a conversion u joint to run the driveshafts you have now. It is doable... but it will be a decent chunk of money. Cheaper if you can weld but it is a killer setup!
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They are not going to be a direct bolt it if that is what you are asking. You will need to remove brackets and weld new spring perches and shock tabs on. What size tires are you planning on running? With a 60 in the rear 37" tire is almost to small for ground clearance for the diff so you need to be thinking real hard about running 40s. Is this your daily driver? If so that four banger is not going to like this setup.

It looks like they are probably junkyard pulls. So plan on complete rebuilds. Figure you will spend 2k minimum to get them under your Jeep. That's if you keep them full width and do not cut them down.
37s is pushing it for a dana 44, 40s are much too big. Also that rear 60 would need to have the spindles bored to accept 35 spline shafts otherwise its not strong enough for 40s either. Personally i would just go to one tons if youre going to do that much work.

No need to cut them down, just run some hummer h2 wheels on it, or another wheel with a lot of backspacing.

Make sure you have access to a welder/fab tools and are able to have your jeep on jackstands for quite some time before you commit to doing a swap like that.
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Unread 02-20-2012, 02:08 PM   #7
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Ok, found this one on CL...

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I would have to have it regeared, but he's asking $85 for everything... I could probably get him down to $60. Would this be a good candidate for a swap?
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Ok, found this one on CL...

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I would have to have it regeared, but he's asking $85 for everything... I could probably get him down to $60. Would this be a good candidate for a swap?
It will be wider than the Explorer 8.8 and the bolt pattern will not match the 5x4.5 bolt pattern.
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To the OP I know this is a little off topic, but would anyone know the lowest gear ratios you can swap into the ford 8.8 or the Dana 44?
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To the OP I know this is a little off topic, but would anyone know the lowest gear ratios you can swap into the ford 8.8 or the Dana 44?
5.13 on the 8.8 and 5.38 on the 44. That's off the top of my head without doing any research. I could be wrong.
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They are not going to be a direct bolt it if that is what you are asking. You will need to remove brackets and weld new spring perches and shock tabs on. What size tires are you planning on running? With a 60 in the rear 37" tire is almost to small for ground clearance for the diff so you need to be thinking real hard about running 40s. Is this your daily driver? If so that four banger is not going to like this setup.

It looks like they are probably junkyard pulls. So plan on complete rebuilds. Figure you will spend 2k minimum to get them under your Jeep. That's if you keep them full width and do not cut them down.
nothing wrong with a 60 and 35" tires. the ground clearance issue isnt that big of a deal especially spring-under. theres more clearance issues to deal with.

a 60 and 44 combo that match would be a fine thing to swap in. no need do the 8.8 like everyone else only to be stuck in terms of a front axle swap. id do a 60 over an 8.8 any day particularly if i could get a matching hp d44 for the front and rid myself of the turdy.
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nothing wrong with a 60 and 35" tires. the ground clearance issue isnt that big of a deal especially spring-under. theres more clearance issues to deal with.

a 60 and 44 combo that match would be a fine thing to swap in. no need do the 8.8 like everyone else only to be stuck in terms of a front axle swap. id do a 60 over an 8.8 any day particularly if i could get a matching hp d44 for the front and rid myself of the turdy.
X2... i ran a 14 bolt and hp 44 in my old chevy on 36s. And i swapped to CTM u-joints and ran 44" TSLs on the dana 44 front axle and never broke it while i owned it in 1.5yr.

You can run 35s on your front dana 30, just swap the rear...
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5.13 on the 8.8 and 5.38 on the 44. That's off the top of my head without doing any research. I could be wrong.
Sounds good. Thanks!
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