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07-27-2009, 07:47 AM
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Customish Electrical Gauge's Project (replace my 88 gauges with 95 gauges)
Has anyone attempted to use the stock wires/sensors and swap out the gauges with different electrical gauges? I will be starting my gauge wire-up tonight. I will post some pics and update as progress is made.
So if anyone has done this, please throw some tricks or suggestions
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07-27-2009, 10:09 AM
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yep. did a dash swap not too long ago.
the speedometer has its own cluster of wires, as does the tachometer.
however, the cluster runs off a "board" and uses a single connector to run all of the lights and gauges. keep in mind the cluster uses a single ground for all the lights and one for the gauges. also a power source is divided up. "key on" power goes to all but the clock, that has always hot power. these will need to be split, and crimped to add more.The sending units, such as water temp, fuel pump, and oil pressure, all have there own wire. you need to chase these out, cut, and clearly label.
not positive, but i believe someone here has a pin-out ouf the 13 and 14 pin connectors. my 91 was 13.
Do yourself a favor and use heat shrink splices. they really can help with corrosion.
my fuel gauge is accurate now!
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07-27-2009, 10:52 AM
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I did the wire the trace outs for the both the old and the new, I'm pre-wiring the gauges before I cut into the wires in the jeep. Heat shrink is something i completely forgot about, so thanks. If this is a success I'll be doing the same thing with the "info lights" (warning lights above the steering wheel) anyone know what voltage is running those?
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07-27-2009, 11:00 AM
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Awesome. I just did the 4.0 head swap and this is next on the to do list to get my tach and speedo working. I have all the guages from the 95 at home and am swapping them into my 87 so this is perfect. please post pics/wiring diagrams, etc!
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07-27-2009, 11:02 AM
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I will def be posting some pics, I think I'll actually do a write-up on the swap
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07-28-2009, 04:44 AM
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well i severly underestimated the amount of time the new dog would take-up... so this project is pushed back till tonight
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07-29-2009, 10:41 AM
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Well decided to go with a more modular design (allows for easy gauge swaps):
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07-29-2009, 12:05 PM
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Nice job on the planning, I'm designing an auxiliary fuse box for myself now (planning really helps out in the end).
I would like to make one suggestion though, do not use wire nuts for auto wiring, I'm not sure if that's what you planned on the ground connection or not.
If you double the terminal block size and put the signal and ground from each meter to a terminal point, one bad connection will not take out all the instruments. This will also make it easier for meter saps without touching the other circuits.
Richard
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07-29-2009, 01:11 PM
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good point.
I was just going to use a wire nut too.
I was originally just going to daisy chain everything (like the factory connections are) but for a more fault tolerance approach I went with my current plan... thinking now of the the jeep bouncing all over trails, wire nuts seem like a crazy idea.
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07-30-2009, 08:48 PM
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Have the gauges wired up, just waiting to be installed tomorrow:
still looking for a new clock, any suggestions?
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07-30-2009, 09:30 PM
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can you cut the old one out of the stock gauges?
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07-31-2009, 05:21 AM
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yeah, it comes right out. But its small for the area I want to put it, and it uses that center pin to adjust the time. Im sealing the dash (water proofing) and that would make for a hard to seal spot
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07-31-2009, 08:00 AM
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http://www.prostreetonline.com/pnsku/1485.asp
theres these but I doubt you want to spend 75 bucks on a clock, it does appear to not have that center pin though.
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08-04-2009, 08:17 PM
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ditch the clock and put something else there worth while.
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