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Unread 02-13-2013, 07:54 PM   #1
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Now i cant get th jeep tostart its. 92 4.0
It cranks and wants to start then stops. I also noticed the rpms arent moving.
Would that keepit fromstarting?

Where is thr sensor for thst?

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Unread 02-13-2013, 08:52 PM   #2
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turn the key to the on position... dont try and start it.. keep watch for the check engine light (should come on right away and then go out in about 3 seconds) if it does then the computer is good... if it doesnt come on right away.. wait (could be up to 2 minutes) with the key on for the light to come on... you will hear a few clicks etc when the light comes on... then turn it to start..

report back on your findings
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Unread 02-13-2013, 10:00 PM   #3
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Yes it comes on right away. And i got the rpms to show. But now its running rough and rpms drop to stall. Now im thinking TBS?
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Unread 02-14-2013, 06:09 AM   #4
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Start with the basics. Check your codes and post back what you find:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/h...codes-1257145/
No rpm is a cam(Distributor pickup) or the more likely issue(Since rpm indication comes from the CPS) The crank position sensor.
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Unread 02-14-2013, 06:32 AM   #5
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thanks i've counted 3 times and every time i've gotten 35 and 76 which arent listed?
I will check readings on Cps
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Unread 02-14-2013, 07:01 AM   #6
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Here ya go. Would first investigate the possible fault for your fuel pump

Code 76-Ballast bypass relay-open or short in fuel pump relay circuit.
Code 35-Radiator fan control relay circuit-open or short detected in teh radiator fan relay circuit.
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Unread 02-14-2013, 08:01 AM   #7
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Did you get 12,33, and 55 as well?
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Unread 02-14-2013, 09:31 AM   #8
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its an islander so It had A/c

start 12
35
76
end 55
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Unread 02-14-2013, 10:02 AM   #9
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No the ac is a different thing. Dont worry about it though. code 76
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Unread 02-14-2013, 10:05 AM   #10
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Sorry. The codes you are throwing can only be there because the ecu was swapped out at some point. No big deal. It is from an XJ. Back to the issue it sounds like the crank position sensor if you don't see rpm.
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Unread 02-14-2013, 10:08 AM   #11
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yea, that's looking like the culprit I got no continuity.
I'll report back this afternoon when it comes in.
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Unread 02-14-2013, 05:14 PM   #12
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Replaced the cps and got it to run shortly. Ran really rough and the. Stalled out
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Unread 02-14-2013, 06:59 PM   #13
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Did the rpms on the gauge drop out before the stall? I think you are describing a fuel issue but I have a couple things to try. Disconnect the battery for a 10 count. Try and start and run. Next disconnect the temp sensor at the tstat and the O2 sensor. Run it and if it doesn't make a difference shut it down and disconnect the battery. Last and what I really think is bad you need to go rent the pressure gauge from the borrow program at the parts store and see what your fuel rail pressure is. You should see 31 psi. Let it idle until your problem happens.
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Unread 02-14-2013, 09:29 PM   #14
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yea that's what I was figuring after all that
I dropped the tank and am putting in clean fuel and grounding the pump to frame.

will keep you posted..
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Unread 02-17-2013, 07:05 AM   #15
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Did the rpms on the gauge drop out before the stall? I think you are describing a fuel issue but I have a couple things to try. Disconnect the battery for a 10 count. Try and start and run. Next disconnect the temp sensor at the tstat and the O2 sensor. Run it and if it doesn't make a difference shut it down and disconnect the battery. Last and what I really think is bad you need to go rent the pressure gauge from the borrow program at the parts store and see what your fuel rail pressure is. You should see 31 psi. Let it idle until your problem happens.
Thanks for all the help
turns out the connector on the fuel sending unit was pulling apart.

also the gas looked like snot and I flushed it out and got some fresh gas in there


purring like a kitten now!
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