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Unread 09-15-2012, 06:13 PM   #1
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Complete redirections - no more family friendly

I was building my YJ to be a family friendly rig. Well I had no idea I would do this but I bought a 2012 JK 2dr lifted with 35's added. Family rig taken care of.

For the YJ I had planned 4" RC lift 33's keeping the front 30 and rear 35 and stock gears. Fun family mild wheeler.

Well now I have the stock 6" or so backspace steelies that were on the JK the 4" lift installed and a YJ with 4.0 HO auto 190K miles, rough body and good frame. I know the wheels are worth nothing but it has me inspired for a new build plan.

Now I am thinking that I could take the YJ body off, Novak convert in a Chevy V8 (I actually have an extra from my hot rodding projects) and add a little wider axles with a 5X5 bolt pattern and use the steelies mentioned above to pull the tires back in a bit. Powder coat them tan. Cover the crap body with complete Metal Cloak steel. Keep the original Sahara feel.

I think the late 70's Ford truck axles are close to what I need with 5X5 bolt pattern. Is this the right way to go. These axles seem available in a 9" and Dana 44 and I can pick up used ones with gears and lockers for under $1K

Here we go again with a simple project gone crazy. I can't keep my projects from getting out of hand. "If I do this I need to do that......"

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Unread 09-15-2012, 10:35 PM   #2
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With a V8 - if it were my rig, I would not go with anything less than 1 ton axles (D60/HPD60/HP9" front, D70/14B rear. Otherwise, you'll be babying the drive train due to it being under built if you plan to hammer on it or use it to its potential.
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If it were me, spring under with those axles are going to give you a net of 1" of lift and steering problems up the wazoo. I've got two buddies running the 44 front and 9" rear and they're both sprung over. If you go with Joe's expertise, you pretty much have to spring it over up front unless you go hydro steer.
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Unread 09-15-2012, 11:29 PM   #4
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Ford truck bolt pattern was 5X5.5 same as the CJs not 5X5.
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Unread 09-16-2012, 08:13 AM   #5
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I've been toying with the same idea with the 9" and D44. It's good to know that it will have to be SOA. My question is why would 1/2 ton differentials originally under an 8000 pound truck with a big block be inadequate for use under a YJ with a SBC?
I used to have a 78 Bronco with a 460 cid engine, a C6, 3.50 gears in Ford 9" and D44s and it was a monster.
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I've been toying with the same idea with the 9" and D44. It's good to know that it will have to be SOA. My question is why would 1/2 ton differentials originally under an 8000 pound truck with a big block be inadequate for use under a YJ with a SBC?
I used to have a 78 Bronco with a 460 cid engine, a C6, 3.50 gears in Ford 9" and D44s and it was a monster.
I too say the same. I like 1/2 ton stuff. Run it and break it. Then upgrade the shafts as the housings rarely break. Plenty of good upgrades too.
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Unread 09-16-2012, 09:07 AM   #7
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Thanks for all the info....my mistake on the 5X5 vs 5X5.5. I just thought it would be nice to reuse the jeep steelies but I guess I will rethink this.

Here in Michigan most of the offroading is trails and mud. Not alot of rock crawling bindng things up so that is why I was leaning to 1/2 ton axles. I figured that they would be adequate with the small block chevy motor.
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Unread 09-16-2012, 10:16 AM   #8
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1/2 trucks aren't that heavy 4500-6000 the current diesels come in under 8000 lbs. My 1 ton dualy diesel is only 7200 lbs empty.
I agree the 1/2 ton stuff is plenty strong though.
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Unread 09-18-2012, 07:10 PM   #9
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Thanks, and from what I can tell the 70's Ford stuff fits easiest once you cut off all the I beam stuff, correct?

Craigslist seems to be pretty ripe for the picking of rusted out ex-mudder trucks around here with 9" and 44's. Many of which already have lockers, gears in the high 4's ect. Is this the best route for a relative noob that has been building cars for years and now getting into Jeeps.

BTW anybody want to buy a hopped up 68 Barracuda....priorities are a changin'. Jeeps are now my main interest.
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