[rodgers3]

my clutch has been soft the last few days
anything i can do to try and fix it.?
(issue is i have to put the clutch pedal on the floor to change gears)
iv added a little fluid to the resivor but no change.
Im going to check the transmission oil and look through my haynes manual to try and figure it out
please help me
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[Opihi59]

Look for evidence of a leak. If your reservoir was low, then that fluid had to go somewhere. You would detect clutch master cyl leak down the INSIDE of your firewall where the rod comes thru to join your pedal. A leak of your dreaded internal clutch slave would be from the bellhousing, so look for a leak there. If it's not clear where the leak is, consider changing out the master to see if there is any change. If not, then it's your internal slave. Gotta pull the tranny to do that, so that would be the time to also put in a new clutch system and replace your rear main seal. Buy OEM when you get an internal slave, don't go cheap because they are notorious for failing right out of the box, and how many times do you wanna pull your trans to replace it??
Clutch hydraulics can also leak "internally" by fluid slipping back past the piston, you won't see fluid loss, but your system won't work.

[rodgers3]

don't see any on the bellhouseing,
ill check the firewall tomorrow.
and possibly get a new master.
i hope its not my internal slave...

[rodgers3]

if i blead the system do you guys think that might help it?...

[TheSmanman]

If you don't see any leaks it wouldn't hurt to bleed it. I just put a clutch kit in my 89 yj and thought I had a bad trans the very next day, because it was next to impossible to get it into reverse or 1st. It ended up being that we didn't get all the air out. After bleeding it a second time, it shifts perfect and it's very smooth now. I have the AX15. It took us 5 1/2 hours to do the entire clutch kit replacement in a driveway on the ground. It's not that bad to do. It's just a very heavy trans!!

[Opihi59]

A closed system doesn't suddenly get air in it somehow, without a problem/defect. Nonetheless, it won't hurt to bleed it if you can, just don't let your reservoir run dry.

Here's a clutch master cyl writeup by Mean Max, it includes photos of where to look for leakage. Brake fluid eats paint, so you'll notice a bit of a paint stripper effect as well. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/c...cement-728960/

[bhamdan]

Originally Posted by rodgers3

don't see any on the bellhouseing,
ill check the firewall tomorrow.
and possibly get a new master.
i hope its not my internal slave...

I didnt see it on my bellhousing at first either when my internal slave went out. Then I bought parts and converted to external slave.

[rodgers3]

Originally Posted by Opihi59

A closed system doesn't suddenly get air in it somehow, without a problem/defect. Nonetheless, it won't hurt to bleed it if you can, just don't let your reservoir run dry.

Here's a clutch master cyl writeup by Mean Max, it includes photos of where to look for leakage. Brake fluid eats paint, so you'll notice a bit of a paint stripper effect as well. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/c...cement-728960/

i think i mightv let it run dry
cus when i opend the cap on the master there was no fluid in it...

[Opihi59]

If you imply that you've found your reservoir empty before trying to bleed it as previously discussed, you've got a leak; that fluid's going somewhere. Puddle in the Driver's footwell, master. Puddle under the back of the engine, slave. It doesn't evaporate.

Converting to an external slave is a very worthwhile endeavor, and the parts are generally not too hard to round up. There are writeups in the FAQ and planny Jeepers here including me have done it. Fixing it up the way it came originally is okay as well, remember it went 20 years ladat.

Let us know your plans, and we'll talk you thru it.



Edit--in the meantime, read thru this thread describing the process on the AX15. Different trans than you have, however the process is identical.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/l...p-pics-965067/

[rodgers3]

Im sure i have the needed resources to drop the transmission...
but the cost of a repair shop is too much...
900.00$ ouch...(that's a new slave and new clutch parts...and labor)
soo...Im going to try bleading it and hope for the best....
and then try and gather the tools i need to convert.it to external slave and such.

[rodgers3]

woo
me and my buddy bled the clutch and uhh black fluid came out
any way got all new fluid in the system and my clutch is back to normal