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Unread 06-21-2007, 03:42 PM   #1
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Buying Springs vs. buying a "lift kit"

What does the smart money do here? I go to the BDS site and I can buy their 3.5" kit for a grand, or I can buy their springs for about $350. What makes the kit worth an extra $650? I can see a couple of hundred in shocks. Beyond that it's all just hardware isn't it? I can't see dropping a grand on a lift kit, but piecing it together for $600 with BDS springs at the heart seems doable.

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Unread 06-21-2007, 07:15 PM   #2
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i got four shocks for a 4inch lift for 154 shipped from qtech they where skyjacker hydros so shocks dont cost that much dunno about the other things but thought that might help
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Unread 06-21-2007, 07:42 PM   #3
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thats what i did, 5" BDS springs, bilstein 5150 shocks, MORE front and rear greasable lift shackles, RE brake line extensions, SYE kit from Advance Adaptors, perches, u-bolts, and shock brackets from DC4WD and ruffstuffspecialties. Its doable, i think mine was 1600 bucks once it was all said and done. The biggest items were 200 for the SYE kit, 400 for my shocks, 500 for the springs. nuts and bolts were probably 150 or 200, driveshaft was 100 and i got the XJ one, paid 50 for it and 50 for cutting and balancing. it is doable, i probably spent the better part of a month getting all of my parts ordered, although i waited to order my shocks till the last week so i was 100% sure on the lengths i needed. PM if you have any questions. but w/ the springs, go to www.dc4wd.com and send him an e-mail or a phone call b/c he quoted my buddy 350 or something shipped for a set of 5" BDS springs, he guarantees the lowest prices.
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Unread 06-21-2007, 08:56 PM   #4
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it's smarter and cheaper to piece it out and only get the things you need.

set of 4 bds 5" springs are like 370ish
bushings like 20 bucks
ubolts like 60
extended bumpstops like 80.
DPA about 40
4 shocks 100 (hydro)

it's WAY cheaper to piece it out than to buy the kit
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Unread 06-21-2007, 09:26 PM   #5
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It really depends on what condition the stock parts are in. I got the re 4.5" extreme duty kit. It has everything you need in one kit. This makes removal of the stock equipment simple using only one tool, the cutoff wheel. The springs are better than their standard kits, and comes with greasable shackles, main bushings and stainless brake lines. All hardware and ubolts, etc. I priced out similar parts individually using bds and others and the price was all about the same, or more.
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Unread 06-21-2007, 09:28 PM   #6
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set of 4 5" BDS springs is 436 shipped without bushings from DC4WD. Just got mine today.
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Unread 06-21-2007, 09:38 PM   #7
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set of 4 5" BDS springs is 436 shipped without bushings from DC4WD. Just got mine today.
i think i know why our quotes are so different...SHIPPING. you're in VT. i'm like one state over from his warehouse.

$100 bucks difference tho....ouch.
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Unread 06-21-2007, 09:55 PM   #8
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When I did my lift I pieced it together. I'm still wondering how much I saved. I did a lot of price shopping(time and effort), ordering from different vendors, driving out of my way to pick up odds and ends. (gas and shipping)

I would also add shackles to the list to clear the rear frame if you plan on using BDS springs.. While your at it, get greasable ones why not right

Many don't run swaybars, I opt to run them since I like stability on public roadways. Sure its nice to turn off the road and go wheel, but for me I can't do that. So when I do why not take a few minutes to disconnect.

Oh yeah, gotta extend your brake lines too. You could cheat and put them under the frame rails. You would need to fasten them. In the rear you would need to relocate the bracket, welded on. Some guys unclip it and let it hang. I wouldn't suggest it.

My best answer is, start piecing it together figure out what you need and don't and go from there.
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Unread 06-21-2007, 10:37 PM   #9
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Jeep came with a shackle lift, so I'm set on that part of the BDS package. 4" is what I have in mind. My shackles are 6.5" eye-to-eye, which I think makes them 1 1.25" lift, so the 3.5" springs would put me at 4.75". Hmmm - maybe I go with 2.5" springs and just plan on a little extra clearancing (TJ Flares, etc.).

I plan on keeping all of the trackbars, sway bars, etc. in place for the street, so I will need disconnects - either homebrew or store bought.
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Unread 06-22-2007, 03:40 AM   #10
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I did mine by parting it out also, bought my 2.5 springs from terraflex for $275.00, shocks for 160.00, I already had the t-case drop down, I bought a pitman arm drop but have not installed as yet, stears and drives great, doubt if I need it, I feel like I saved alot by doing it the way I did
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Unread 06-22-2007, 07:07 AM   #11
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Just yesterday...
I got following setup from DC4WD...
RE 4" Standard Lift Kit...
RE 3/8" lift greasable boomerang shackles
RE Power Steering Pitman Arm....
Grand total shipped to PA... $765.00

My YJ is in serious need of new suspension components... so i didn't want to bother with finding out what should be replaced and what not... got the RE kit with all things in it and waiting impatiently for it to arrive...
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Unread 06-26-2007, 10:45 PM   #12
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BDS= Black Diamond, correct? What am I missing price wise here. You can get a 3.5 complete setup for 600... huh

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BDS= lack Diamond, correct? What am I missing price wise here. You can get a 3.5 complete setup for 600... huh
BDS = http://www.bds-suspension.com/
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Unread 06-26-2007, 11:44 PM   #14
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bds- big dick suspension...seriously.
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Unread 06-27-2007, 12:25 AM   #15
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you can almost get by with only buying springs and ubolts if its a 2.5 lift, you can even use stock shocks if you are that thrifty reweld the stock axle mounts 2.5-3" higher, wont even affect flex. Lower the the brakelines down the frame abit, make spacers for the t-case. thats all
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