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Unread 06-21-2013, 07:36 PM   #1
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Greetings!
I am in the midst of a frame-off restoration of my 4.2L 90 YJ. I am not a rookie or anything, but I imagine I'll have a few quick questions that I won't want to start 100 new threads for. Sorry if some of the questions in this thread seem inane, I'll try to keep the dumb questions to a minimum.

First two, here goes:

I've currently got the entire tub, and front clip removed. I have the engine and trans out, and I'm left with basically the frame (rear diff is coming out next).
I want to use some chassis saver to prevent rust (CNY winters = the reason for this in the first place)

1)How much chassis saver does it take to coat the frame?

Secondly I think I want to swap out the internal slave. I'm fairly sure I'm blessed with the AX-15 (I don't believe I haven't 100% verified this yet.)

What vehicles can I try to source an external-slave bell-housing out of?

Thanks for your help, and I'm sure I'll have more questions.

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Unread 06-21-2013, 07:44 PM   #2
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Chassis saver takes multiple coats and there is a label on the can stating how much area it will cover.


And your jeep should have the ax-15 and the Dakota bell housing is a popular item.
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Unread 06-21-2013, 07:49 PM   #3
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That's sorta the information I was looking for. I need to purchase some online as I don't have a vendor near me and I don't know how much chassis saver to buy.

And Second Gen Dakota's right? 1997–2004 wikipedia lists them as having the AX-15 so obviously... right?
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Unread 06-21-2013, 07:59 PM   #4
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couldn't you just use a 93-95 yj 4.0 bell and clutch setup from the JY and just be done with it?

you will also need to replace the input housing on your trans. the external and internal housings are different.





as far as anything else goes ...
bell
throw out bearing
throw out slide fork and retainers
slave and hose to the master
external slave trans input housing


i would think you could get all of this from a pick and pull except the to bearing. shouldn't run you more than $100-$150 total.
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Unread 06-21-2013, 08:18 PM   #5
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Chassis saver takes multiple coats and there is a label on the can stating how much area it will cover.


And your jeep should have the ax-15 and the Dakota bell housing is a popular item.
I was told that you could Not use them ??????
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Unread 06-21-2013, 08:30 PM   #6
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I was told that you could Not use them ??????
Lemme go back and double check it. I was blessed with buying a 94 which I still believe was he first year with the external slave unless I'm wrong about that too.

Its just not my day. Sorry gents.
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Unread 06-22-2013, 06:27 AM   #7
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i thought 93 was the first... looks like we both have some reading to do.
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Unread 06-22-2013, 06:30 AM   #8
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you are right... 94 was the first year for the external.

here is a great thread for doing the swap.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/l...p-pics-965067/
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Unread 06-22-2013, 03:10 PM   #9
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So does the dakota AX-15 work or not? I'll have a much easier time sourcing one at a pick-n-pull. Jeeps are like gold up here.

EDIT: After scouring ebay it has become quite apparent that there are a multitude of people selling all the parts I need for an overly fair price... gonna just go that route.
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Unread 06-22-2013, 03:17 PM   #10
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Idk about the dakota...but I got one from an xj for my tj... the clocking for the t-case was different but we just re-drilled to adjust that. Xjs are usually plentiful at most jys

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Unread 06-22-2013, 03:35 PM   #11
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dakota ax-15 has a slightly lower clock for the x-case.
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Unread 06-22-2013, 06:43 PM   #12
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Mike I read your build thread and fell in love with those metalcloaks. Guess what just went on my list? haha
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Unread 06-22-2013, 07:30 PM   #13
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don't get too scared away by their price, they are worth every penny.
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Unread 07-27-2013, 10:13 AM   #14
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Progress... New springs in, frame completely patched up and painted. Just have to button up the front end, swap all the trans stuff for the external slave, run brakes (doing that this weekend) and then it's bodywork time.
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Unread 09-29-2013, 06:48 PM   #15
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Moving steadily along now, I picked up a fiberglass tub and am just about done with... well everything really. Just a few odds and ends to button up.
The tub is off of a newer (94) YJ and my frame is from an older (90) YJ. Theres a few wiring plugs I could use diagrams for so I can wire everything up quick.



Firstly, the gas tank wiring. I do not have an electric fuel pump. I do have a fuel gauge, and I'd like it to work correctly.
So... Light brown wire to the gauge and the black wire is a ground, correct?

Next up: The cab wiring harness that feeds into the engine bay. A wiring pin-out of this would be immensely helpful as I am wiring the entire engine bay from scratch.
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