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Unread 04-05-2013, 10:06 PM   #1
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BDS helper springs, bastard pack, or 2" lift springs?

I've been looking at the BDS helper spring kit for my yj. Also been searching the bastard spring pack. There was also a glance at 2" lift springs. I don't know which route to take.

I have a 90' yj on 35s SOA lift, no body lift yet "thinkin about 1"-2"

What will I run into, I'm a newb with jeeps. Learnt 98% of what I know on here since I joined feb 1st.

Link to my thread with pics of my yj.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/t...90-yj-1472522/

I've read and read. Just don't know which would be the easiest and most practical approach to take.

"Front drive shaft is currently out, it's bent, new one to be made after I replace springs, no SYE, JB4x4 high steer kit. Swaggy springs"

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Im running 2 inch BDS springs, 5/8" booms SOA and 1 inch BL on 33s. Going to 35s when these wear out


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Unread 04-06-2013, 06:46 AM   #3
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Hers how it was on 35s
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I also use the 2" BDS springs SOA with no complaints. I was unaware BDS even made a "helper spring" so I couldn't offer any advice on those specifically although typically any add a leaf is going to make things quite stiff.
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Unread 04-07-2013, 06:41 PM   #6
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YJames90 I love ya yj man. You gave me answers I needed. I can only find "packages" for the BDS springs. I just need springs not all the bolts etc etc etc.

You got any more info on your yj?

Thanks guy for all the help. I plan on climbing trees this fall!
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Unread 04-08-2013, 03:54 AM   #7
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Go to the BDS web site. Find a dealer and call them. They can get what ever you need. I was quoted the 2 inch springs @ 75 a piece plus bushings
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What a our your pitman arm? I currently have 4" now
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Brandon,
When you say "Swaggy Springs", do you mean Wagoneer Springs? The reason I ask is if you want more height than you have on stock Waggy springs, you need to add about 2"-2 1/2" to whatever you want if you're buying springs meant for a YJ (stock Waggy's give a fair bit of lift). Also, there's a good chance that whomever installed them used them to stretch the wheelbase, so you may end up with less distance between the wheels after you change springs. Finally, to put Waggys in, they would have had to drill out the shackles to 9/16", so if you've got Waggys now, you'll need new shackles if you go back to YJ springs.
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Maybe I used the wrong term. I am a total newb.

Lets just say they are flat. I'm pretty sure they are stock springs.

I called local BDS dealer today. Here is what I got.

$95 ea for 2" lift springs
$10 ea U bolts "I never like to re use old ones"
$24 per spring for bushings

So if I add the 2" lift springs what else should I do? I asked about a SYE a rubicon express SYE was around $250. I still gotta get front drive shaft made so I figure I get a new rear made as well after the SYE is in.

I wanted info on shackles too. I was gonna look into boomerang shackles.

Please pleae speak up. I wanna spend the money right the first time.

Pickin up 8.8 with disc brakes $75 at local pull a part. Hoping the D35 holds out till fall. Give me time to gather everything I'll need. "Parts and info" deal with all this conversation at a later time.

Back to springs
I'm just concerned being SOA on the lift springs and what all I need. With the BDS 2" springs. I've heard nothin but good from BDS and the warranty sells it for me.

My steering I have the jb4x4 high steer bracket.
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Unread 04-09-2013, 08:41 PM   #11
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I used the JB Conversions SYE, personally I think it's the best one out there and it's not $250. I used a front shaft from a XJ, had it cut and balanced as needed. Used the 5/8's boom shackles front and rear from MORE.

$24 per spring for bushings seems kinda high. You can get Daystar bushings from Foothill Offroad for $2.29 ea at 8 per spring that's 18.32 per spring (you need two large and two small per spring) or they have a Poly Performance kit on eBay right now for $36 that'll do the front or rear, so you need two kits. I don't guess that makes the cost really much less, but I'm cheap so saving $6 per spring is worth it to me. Plus Foothill Offroad is just down the road from me (well when they still had an actual store) so I bought mine from them.
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I think i have the rugged rid SYE and it performs perfect. Grand cherokee front shaft cut down in the rear and extended front shaft. Quick way to extend the front shaft. Find an unwanted tie rod. Cut a section off it. Cut the hollow drive shaft and insert the tie rod. Perfect tight fit. Set shaft to length and weld
1990 Chevy 1500 pickup front brake hoses are a perfect fit with added length
5/8 boom shackes
If i did it over again i would still go 2" BDS. Some tomes it feels top heavy and leans but I love the clearance.
Also running the JB4x4 and had to extend the tie rod with a 3 inch drop pitman arm
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This is my pitman arm. Top of page http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/t...22/index3.html

You have any pics of your steering setup?
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