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Axle Information Writeup/Thread
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Axle Information Writeup/Thread
I've been seeing a lot of questions regarding axle strength, U-joints, tire size, etc etc. I found that theres a lot of info out there, but it can be hard to put it all together and sometimes hard to find. So, I've taken a little reasearch, a nice artical provided by JP Magazine and a few websites to help out a bit. Here is some axle information: (Note, most Dana axle spec information is given for Jeep application axles, spec information for other manufacturers may vary [i.e. Chevy axle width, stock gearing, etc])
FRONT AXLES D27 Front Axle: Full Floating Vehicles: '66-'71 CJ-5 and CJ-6; '63-'70 Wagoneer; '67-'71 C-101 Jeepster Ring Gear: 7.2" Stock Gearing: Axleshaft Spline: 10 Axleshaft Diameter: 1.13" Axle Joint: Spicer 260X Knuckle: Closed Brakes: Drum 10" 11" Weakness: Weak axle for upgrades, low spline count, weak carrier Width: 51" (CJ and Jeepster), 57.5" (Wagoneer) Wheel Bolt: 5x5.5" Max Recommended Tire Size: 31" D30 Front Axle: Full/Semi Floating Vehicles: From ’72 CJ-5, CJ-6, CJ-7, CJ-8, YJ, TJ, XJ, ZJ, C104, WJ Ring Gear: 7.125”, 7.33” (TJ/WJ Only) Stock Gearing: 3.07, 3.54 (3.55), 3.73, 4.10 (4.11) Axleshaft Spline: 27 Axleshaft Diameter: 1.16”, 1.193” (TJ/WJ Only) Axle Joint: Spicer 260X (pre ’95.5), Spicer 297/760X (post ’95.5), CV & 760 U-Joint (TJ/WJ) Knuckle: Open Brakes: Drum 11” (pre ’76), Disc (post ’76) Weakness: 260X U-joint; YJ Vacuum motor fails; standard CV problems Width: 51” (’72-’75 CJ, C-104), 53” (’76-’81 CJ), 56” (’82-’86 CJ), 60.5” (TJ, YJ, XJ, WJ) Wheel Bolt: 5x5.5” (CJ/C-104), 5x4.5” (others) Max Recommended Tire Size: 35” AAM 790 Front Axle Semi Floating Vehicles: '05 and later WK Ring Gear: 7.87" Stock Gearing: Axleshaft Spline: Axleshaft Diameter: Axleshaft Joint: CV Knuckle: Open Brakes: Disc Weakness: Limited modification ability, small ring gear Width: Wheel Bolt: Max Recommended Tire Size: 32" D44 Front Axle: Full/Semi Floating Vehicles: ’57-’65 FC-170; ’63-’70 Gladiator; '67-'79 1/2 & 3/4 Ton Ford Pickups; ’71-’87 J-Series; ’71-’91 Wagoneer; '72-'93 1/2 & 3/4 Ton Dodge Pickups; '73-'79 1/2 & 3/4 Ton Chevy Pickups; ’74-’83 Cherokee; ’03-’06 Rubicon Ring Gear: 8.5” Stock Gearing: Many Axleshaft Spline: 19 (pre ’71), 30 (post ’71) Axleshaft Diameter: 1.25” (19 spline), 1.31” (30 spline) Axle Joint: Spicer 206X (pre ’73), Spicer 297/760C (post ’73) Knuckle: Closed (pre ’73), Open (post ’73) Brakes: Drum 11” (pre ’73), Disc (post ’73) Weakness: 260X and 19 spline axleshafts Width: 63” (FC-170), 57.5” (’71-’73 Wagoneer), 59” (’74 and later Wagoneer), 65.5” (J-Series), 60.5” (Rubicon), Full Width (Ford, Dodge, Chevy) Wheel Bolt: (Varies) Max Recommended Tire Size: 37” D60 Front Axle: Full Floating Vehicles: ‘67-’69 Kaiser M-715; ‘72-‘93 3/4 & 1 Ton Dodge Pickups; ‘74-‘77 3/4 Ton Ford Pickups; ‘77-‘87 3/4 & 1 Ton Chevy Pickups; ‘78-‘79 1 Ton Ford Pickups Ring Gear: 9.75” Stock Gearing: 4.10, 4.56 Axleshaft Spline: 30 Axleshaft Diameter: 1.31” Axle Joint: Unknown Spicer Knuckle: Closed Brakes: Drum 13” Weakness: Metallurgically axleshafts inferior to modern metals Width: 72.5” (M-715), Full Width (Ford, Dodge and Chevy) Wheel Bolt: 6x8.25” Max Recommended Tire Size: 42” REAR AXLES D35 Rear Axle: Semi-floating (’85-’89), C-clip (’90 and later) Vehicles: Most XJ; YJ; TJ (except Rubicon); ZJ; some WJ Ring Gear: 7.562” Stock Gearing: 3.07, 3.54 (3.55), 3.73, 4.10 (4.11) Axleshaft Spline: 27 Axleshaft Diameter: 1.13” Brakes: Drum 11”; Disc (later ZJ/WJ) Weakness: Weak carrier & axleshafts Width: 60.5” Wheel Bolt: 5x4.5” Max Recommended Tire Size: 33” D44 Rear Axle: Semi Floating Vehicles (here we go…*long breath*): ’49-’65 6cyl Willy Wagons; ’49.5-’53 CJ-3A; ’53-’68 CJ-3B; ’50-’52 M-38; ’52-’57 M-38A1; ’53-’57 M-170; ’55-’75 CJ-5 & CJ-6; ’85.5-’86 CJ-7; ’58-’65 FC-150; ’57-’65 FC-170; ’63-’70 Wagoneer & Gladiator Pickup; ’67-’71 C-101 Jeepster; ’72-’73 C-104; ’71-’75 Wagoneer & ½-ton J-Series; ’74-’83 Cherokee; ’87-’91 Grand Wagoneer; Some ’86-’92 XJ and MJ; Some ’97-’06 TJ; ’99-’04 WJ; ’96-’98 ZJ Ring Gear: 8.5”, 8.9” (WJ only ) Stock Gearing: Many, including 3.55, 3.73, 4.11 Axleshaft Spline: 10 (’49-’55), 19 (’56-’70.5), 30 (’70.5 and later) Axleshaft Diameter: 1.193” (WJ/ZJ) 1.25” (10 and 19 Spline), 1.31 (30 Spline) Brakes: Drum 9”, 10”, 11”; Disc (Rubicon, ZJ, WJ) Weakness: 10 & 19 Spline, Some aluminum housings. Width: 50.5” (up to ’75 CJ, FC, C-101, C-104), 54.5” (’85-’86 CJ), 57.5” (’63-’73 Wagoneer), 60.5” (XJ, MJ, TJ, ZJ, WJ), 65.5” (FSJ Cherokee, J-Series) Wheel Bolt: Varies Max Recommended Tire Size: 35” D53 Rear Axle: Semi Floating Vehicles: '55-'65 Willys pickup; '63-'69 Gladiator; '57-'65 FC-170 Ring Gear: 9.25" Stock Gearing: Axleshaft Spline: 20 Axleshaft Diameter: 1.31" Brakes: Drum 11" Weakness: Hard to find parts, low spline Width: 65.5" (Gladitaor), 63" (Others) Wheel Bolt: 5x5.5" Max Recommended Tire Size: 35" D60 Rear Axle: Semi/Full Floating Vehicles: ‘67-‘69 1/2 & 3/4 Ton Ford Pickups; ’69-’87 J-2000/J-20; ‘72-‘93 3/4 Ton Dodge Pickups Ring Gear: 9.75” Stock Gearing 4.10, 4.56 Axleshaft Spline: 30 Axleshaft Diameter: 1.31” Brakes: Drum 12” Weakness: Width: 65.5” (J-2000/J-20), Full Width (Ford, Dodge & Chevy) Wheel Bolt: 8x6.5” Max Recommended Tire Size: 42” D70 Rear Axle: Full Floating Vehicles:’58-’68 FC-170 w/dual rear wheels; ’63-’68 J-3000 w/dual rear wheels; ’67-’69 M-715; CJ-10; '72-‘93 3/4 & 1 Ton Dodge Pickups; ‘76-‘77 3/4 Ton Ford Pickups; ‘77-‘87 1 Ton Chevrolet Pickups; ‘78-‘79 1 Ton Ford Pickups Ring Gear: 10.5” Stock Gearing: 4.10, 4.56 Axleshaft Spline: 23, 35 Axleshaft Diameter: 1.5” Brakes: Drum 13” Weakness: Poor parts availability Width: 59” (FC & Pickup), 72” (M-715), Full Width (Ford, Dodge and Chevy) Wheel Bolt: 6x7.25” (M-715), 8x6.5” (others) Max Recommended Tire Size: 44” AMC20 Rear Axle: Semi Floating Vehicles: ’76-’86 CJ; ’76-’91 Wagoneer and J-10 Ring Gear: 8.875” Stock Gearing: 2.76, 3.07 Axleshaft Spline: 20 Axleshaft Diameter: 1.31” Brakes: Drum 11” Weakness: 2 piece axleshafts (CJ only), tubes spin, 20 spline Width: 50.5” (’76-’81 CJ), 54.5” (’82-’86 CJ), 59” (Wagoneer), 65.5” (J-Series) Wheel Bolt: 5x5.5” (CJ), 6x5.5” (Wagoneer and J-Series) Max Recommended Tire Size: 33”-35” Chrysler 8.25 Rear Axle: C-clip Vehicles: '91-'01 XJ Ring Gear: 8.25” Stock Gearing: 3.55, 3.73, 4.10 Axleshaft Spline: 27 ('91-'96), 29 ('96-'01) Axleshaft Diameter: 1.17” (27 spline), 1.21 (29 spline) Brakes: Drum 11” Weakness: 27 spline, c-clip Width: 60.5” Wheel Bolt: 5x4.5” Max Recommended Tire Size: 35” Ford 8.8 Rear Axle C-clip Vehicles: Ford Explorer (Prefered Swap, information reflects Explorer only), Ford F-Series , Ford Ranger Ring Gear: 8.8" Stock Gearing: 3.08, 3.27, 3.55, 3.73, 4.10 Axleshaft Spline: 28, 31 Axleshaft Diameter: 1.320" Brakes: Drum ('91-'94), Disc ('95-'01) Weakness: C-clip, weak carrier Width: 59.625" to 65.6" Wheel Bolt: Most 5x4.5" Max Recommended Tire Size: 40" AXLE STRENGHTS: COT - Continuous Output Torque MOT - Maximum Output Torque Dana 35 ........................ COT: 870 MOT: 3480 AMC 20 ......................... Chrysler 8.25 ................. Dana 53 ........................ Dana 44 ........................ COT: 1100 MOT: 4460 Ford 8.8 28 spline ........... COT: 1250 MOT: 4600 Ford 8.8 31 spline ........... COT: 1360 MOT: 5100 Dana 60 semifloat ........... COT: 1500 MOT: 5500 Dana 70 ........................ Rockwell 2.5 Ton ............ Industructable IDENTIFICATION: Tag Identification: D30: “30” cast into back of diff casing on top right and left next to diff cover. Tag bolted on diff cover with axle ID and gear ratio. D35: “35” cast into back of diff casing on top right and left next to diff cover. “C” next to “35” DOES NOT stand for c-clip, but “custom” (unfinished by Spicer). Tag bolted on diff cover with axle ID and gear ratio. D44: In most cases “44” into back of diff casing on top right and left next to diff cover. Tag bolted on diff cover with axle ID and gear ratio. D60: Similar looking casing to the D44, except the oil fill plug is elevated to provide more fluid for the larger gears. Chrysler 8.25: Tag wrapped around passenger side tube with axle ID and gear ratio. Ford 8.8: See Joe Dillard and T.Dome's writeup linked at the bottom of the page Differential Cover Identification: AMC 20: 12 cover bolts, round cover, fill plug not present D27: 10 cover bolts, oval with straight sides, distinguished ring gear extension, low fill plug D30: 10 cover bolts (five on top, five on bottom), oval cover w/flat sides, fill plug just below centerline D35: 10 cover bolts, evenly spaced, oval "dome" shaped cover with low fill plug D44: 10 cover bolts, hexagon shaped cover with very round edges, fill plug on centerline D60: 10 cover bolts, hexagon shaped cover, fill plug on centerline D70: 10 cover bolts, hexagon shaped cover, fill plug on centerline Chrystler 8.25: 10 cover bolts, oval shaped cover, fill plug just below centerline Ford 8.8: 10 cover bolts, square with very round edges, fill plug not present on cover ![]() Gear Identification: If the gears are unidentifiable from the tag or if the tag is missing, there are two methods to find the gear ratio. 1) Spin the tire one full rotation and watch how far the driveshaft rotates. Double the amount the driveshaft rotated, this gives you your gear ratio. Be sure you are spinning the tire forwards. 2) Count ring & pinion gears: Count the number of teeth on the ring and the pinion. Then divide the ring teeth by the pinion teeth to attain the gear ratio. USEFUL LINKS Identification information along with applications outside the Jeep family can be found here Very informational thread by OhioYJ covering the Jeep, GM, Ford and Chrystler axles at cdmfabrication All the information you could ever need pertaining to the Ford 8.8 by Joe Dillard and T.Dome More information better encompasing years and qualities of the D60 and Ford 9" A writeup by Tomb Raider on axle u-joint replacement Another writeup by OhioYJ also on u-joint replacement Now there was a ton of typing in there and a lot of numbers, so feel free to correct me if you see a misprint or mislabeled information. Also, if you have any information to add, please let me know and I will go about adding it.
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Good info, thanks.
One question, is the Chrysler 8.25 rear axle easier to install into a YJ than a Ford 8.8? |
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no 8.8 in there??
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95 YJ: SOA, locked 44, locked 8.8, 37s, beadlocks, OBA, winch, and a few other things. [URL=http://www.cdmfabrication.com/aboutmel.html]My Build-Up Post[/URL] -- [URL=http://www.cdmfabrication.com/kbl.html]SWB FAQ[/URL] -- Mike |
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Here is the Axle Guide I've been working on. It has most axles in it, not just the Jeep axles.
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95 YJ: SOA, locked 44, locked 8.8, 37s, beadlocks, OBA, winch, and a few other things. [URL=http://www.cdmfabrication.com/aboutmel.html]My Build-Up Post[/URL] -- [URL=http://www.cdmfabrication.com/kbl.html]SWB FAQ[/URL] -- Mike |
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Update: Added a few more front axles and fixed a few pieces of information.
Anyone else have stuff to add? Doesnt need to be as awesome as OhioYJ's anything will help! |
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Ares:
Dont know if this will help you, but heres a link on the 8.8 I've gotten through doing my research. It seems that it might be of interest to you. http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?t=674123 GREAT write up otherwise, really helpful. |
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More info added
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Added a few new things today including a current thread thats runnin around about the D60
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Got my eye on you.....
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Talk about a workout to read.
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sticky!
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