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Unread 06-06-2011, 01:48 PM   #1
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AX5 Fix Sloppy shifter -93 YJ

I searched 13 pages for ax5 shifter and didnt find anything relating to what I'm looking for.

Basically my shifter doesnt have that springy feel where it should pop back to center. When in gear it has plenty of slop and when coming out of 2nd it doesnt move to where 3rd would just be a push up.

I found an article about the ax15 that talks about a bushing in the shifter housing and that you don't need to get the whole housing. shift tower oil seal part #4864226X.

All I can find for the AX5 is two items on Ebay, and I'm not sure it's even the right thing.
1- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-...Q5fAccessories
2- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEEP-...Q5fAccessories


Anyone have experience with this? part# or pictures?

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Unread 06-06-2011, 02:11 PM   #2
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there is a plastic umbrella looking thing on the bottom of your shifter and if you rest your hand on your shifter while you drive or have a heavy shift knob it will wear it out and cause play... this might be your problem... I believe your second link is the part i am talking about but i cant tell for sure if it is... ill try to get a picture of the part i am talking about
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Unread 06-06-2011, 02:27 PM   #3
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Thanks!
"I" know not to rest my hand on the shifter for that reason... can't help the previous owners.
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Unread 06-06-2011, 02:33 PM   #4
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Unread 06-06-2011, 02:40 PM   #5
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it would be #2 in that picture my computer is being slow to upload the pictures
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Unread 06-06-2011, 02:46 PM   #6
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I did find this:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/a...loose-1111389/

Looks like #2 is what I need.
The part # I gave above looks like it is just an oil seal. I need the #2 part that goes on the end of the shifter and maybe new springs on the sides.
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Unread 06-06-2011, 03:04 PM   #7
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http://www.quadratec.com/jeep-replac...sion/ax4_5.php
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Unread 06-06-2011, 03:44 PM   #8
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cool, got the parts in my cart from Quadratec. I'll report back when I know if it works.

Maybe it's only on the ax15 case, but does the ax5 utilize what look like spring loaded bolts??
Example: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/a...loose-1111389/
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Unread 06-18-2011, 09:46 AM   #9
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OK, replaced the seal in the bottom of the shifter housing, and the bushing on the tip of the shifter.
It's still the same.

I think it's a worn out spring in the side bolt things (see post #6 in this link: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/a...loose-1111389/)
Mainly the drivers side one. Is there a part number for these anywhere? or do they come apart and you can replace the spring?

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Unread 06-29-2011, 05:04 PM   #10
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I FOUND YOU MF"Rs !!! at least I think anyway.... anychance I can get some re-assurance? lol

#83500516 Reverse Left Hand Shift Pin
#83500515 Reverse Right Hand Shift Pin

http://www.jeep4x4center.com/reverse...-83500516.html

They are not numbered on any diagram I could find, but now that I have a part# I can find them elsewhere... Still ~$25 each... cockgobblers.
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Unread 06-29-2011, 05:13 PM   #11
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Photo number 7 in the first post, and associated text. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/m...build-1032480/

Yes, the parts you linked in your last post are what you need.
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They are listed as different part numbers for the left & the right. The only difference is the amount of spring tension it applies to the shifter. The one on the passenger side applies more spring pressure to the 5th & Reverse gear positions to help avoid accidental engagement. You can use the stiffer right side style on both sides if you prefer, or you can use the softer driver's side on both sides if you want to. If you mix them up, just squeeze them with your fingers to see which one has the stouter spring.

Unless the spring is broken internally, they can usually be brought back to life with some PB Blaster & some exercise. Typically, they are rusty from exposure to water.

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I ordered the parts and they will be in Thursday.

I went underneath and pulled the passenger side one out, and it is still springy.
Passenger side bolt controls 1 & 2 gears (easiest to get out and most likely to wear out I would think).
Driver side bolt controls 5 & R gears.
24mm or 15/16.

The passenger side isnt too bad to get to with a socket, swivel and extension, but I think my 1" BL made that do able.
Driver side you can get quite easily, but you need to remove the 4 bolts holding the TC lever bracket, it's just a RCH too close preventing it from threading out all the way. You will likely need to get the 2nd bolt on the top portion of that bracket from inside the cab.

I'll wait until the parts come in to do that.
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You're right, I wasn't thinking about the pivot point, so I had it backwards. The driver's side spring loaded detent controls 5th & Reverse, and the passenger side one controls 1st & 2nd gear.

Thanks for posting the correct information!

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Unread 07-12-2011, 11:39 PM   #15
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Gah! Only one came in, apparantly quadradtec is back ordered.

The one that did come in was noticeably stiffer than the passenger side one I could easily remove, so i replaced it with that as my 1 & 2 shifter was the main complaint.

Much better.
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