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cj786 05-07-2013 12:25 PM

Ax-15 popping out 1st gear
 
I have a 95 jeep wrangler yj 4.0L with the ax-15 transmisson I've recently replaced the transmission with a rebulit one and it works great other than a few issues. When I put it in first gear at complete stop (btw its hard to get it into first gear and second while standing still with the clutch in, like you almost have to force it, it works better if you go from 3-2 then to 1st) and go to take off it pops right out of gear, however, if i hold a little pressure on the shifter and slowly let off of the clutch, it will "click/pop" and from that point it will not pop out. It shifts smoothly through all other gears. It also gives me an issues when trying to go into reverse, feels like maybe the clutch is dragging or something. I would like any help to try and figure the issues or there by chance is a flaw with 1st gear.

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Kaiser-Willys 05-07-2013 12:46 PM

I have close to the same issue. My AX15, while cold will go into 1st or 2nd when the tranny is cold. Once it warms up it become a real PITA to get the shifter into those 2 gears when fully stopped. At a slow roll it is easier. I have since replaced & bled the clutch master cylinder and the tranny fluid. Still having the same issue. I again bled the system.......still a PITA to get into 1st & 2nd.

Next step is the syncros?

cj786 05-07-2013 01:17 PM

I don't think mines the syncros.

Exit93 05-07-2013 02:57 PM

i have the same problem with my first gear. everyone has told me its the syncros

Kaiser-Willys 05-07-2013 03:25 PM

Hi all,

I just left a shop where the guy has been a Jeep mechanic for 26 years. He took the Jeep for a drive. When he got back he said he is leaning towards the pressure plate. He has seen a lot of the cheapy, aftermarket clutch kits with weak pressure plates and this problem. He pointed me towards an AC Delco clutch kit or Centerforce.

As for the popping out of gear. There is detent ball that must fit into the detent on the shaft when you place it in gear. Something is worn, sticking or misaligned.

jkilmer83 05-07-2013 10:38 PM

With popping out I would say the synco assy not the synco rings. most rebuilds just replace the rings.

cj786 09-02-2013 02:17 PM

Update on the. Gearbox was replaced and new one is working like a charm.

rambo3489 09-02-2013 05:41 PM

Its the holding teeth/shift collar on whatever gear you are having issues with. They get rounded and don't hold the gear anymore and pop out. Just rebuilt mine and that was my problem. Most people believe it to be the sychros. While they can't help the cause. They won't be solely responsible for it either the holding teeth will be.

EDIT: Sorry to hear you got a new tranny. Rebuilding it is a very big benefit, and honestly not hard to do.


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