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Unread 02-16-2009, 08:18 PM   #1
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Auburn Ected or Eaton E locker

Which one is more reliable? Pros and cons. Going in the 8.8 rear.

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Unread 02-16-2009, 08:45 PM   #2
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Avoid the ECTED like the plague!
A buddy of mine had them professionally installed in his LJ front & rear.
They have been nothing but problems slipping and breaking. He's replaced each of them once. He's junking them as soon as he can afford it.
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Unread 02-16-2009, 08:48 PM   #3
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i have an ected.. see sig... no problems.. the posi on the street took some getting used to, but now i like it..
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Unread 02-16-2009, 08:49 PM   #4
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Avoid the ECTED like the plague!
A buddy of mine had them professionally installed in his LJ front & rear.
They have been nothing but problems slipping and breaking. He's replaced each of them once. He's junking them as soon as he can afford it.
yeah i know someone that has them. (problems, problems, problems)stay away from them like he said the plague. go with eaton e-locker
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Unread 02-16-2009, 08:53 PM   #5
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I've read a lot of bad reviews on the Ected. I have a Dana 44 Eaton E-locker. It took half of one Saturday to wire it up. I've only used it for one summer but so far so good. I read in this forum once that the D44 Eaton is only good for up to 35" tires. But I have not seen that statement but once.
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Unread 02-16-2009, 09:00 PM   #6
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E-locker. Positive locking, open when not.

ECTED is limited slip that 'tightens' the clutches when locked. Guy in our club had one and after a while it wouldn't lock up, was just a limited slip.
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Unread 02-17-2009, 04:35 PM   #7
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a guy i know deals the ected and has had nothing but problems with them I'd say to stay away from those
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Unread 02-17-2009, 04:41 PM   #8
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Eaton E locker is a pile of crap. The tangs that hold the electromagnet break, allowing the magnet to spin and sheering off the wiring. The locker unlocks when rocking forward to reverse due to the ball ramp engagement design. When you do break it, the parts cost 3x the initial cost of the locker. Ask me how I know

I wound up just throwing the damn thing away
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Unread 02-17-2009, 05:35 PM   #9
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Eaton E locker is a pile of crap.
I wonder if its an isolated thing. My buddy runs the Eaton E-Lockers front and rear in his CJ and has had flawless performance with them in Moab multiple times... his brother who runs the ARB selectable air lockers has had issues with his air setup numerous times.
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Unread 02-17-2009, 05:41 PM   #10
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I wonder if its an isolated thing. My buddy runs the Eaton E-Lockers front and rear in his CJ and has had flawless performance with them in Moab multiple times... his brother who runs the ARB selectable air lockers has had issues with his air setup numerous times.
Heard of at least 3 of them going the same way. The unlocking when going forward to reverse would exist in all of them, just a defect of the design. There is a ball bearing that rides up a ramp causing it to lock, reversing causes it to go down the ramp to the unlocked position before going up the other ramp. The electromagnet alone costs almost $300 to replace
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Unread 02-17-2009, 07:10 PM   #11
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What about ox lockers. I saw where they are offering an electric model. There site doesn't show how it works though. I may just go with the old tried and true ox cable system.
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Unread 02-17-2009, 07:13 PM   #12
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Ox - expensive, but the guys in my club who run them havn't had any issues since they changed the cable system.
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Unread 02-17-2009, 08:41 PM   #13
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I am on my second e-locker in my 8.8 and am getting pissed. I hardly ever use the thing. I have been trying to contact eaton to see what they will do. I only wheel in snow and sand. I see no excuse for the continued failures of this product.

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Unread 02-17-2009, 08:42 PM   #14
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i think lockers go bad/break due to maybe:

1) inproper installation maybe? just because its a repair shop, doesnt mean they know how to PROPERLY work on a diff.. you can just throw it in there, no measurements, no setting, NOTHING.. and it will still work!!..

2) inproper maintainance

3) unreal abuse combined with larger than rec tires, both eaton and auburn rec max at 33's, me knowing that auburns max rec tire is a 33, i try not to leave it locked if i dont have to..

4) overheating, the electromagnet uses electricity to maintain the pull and lock the carrier, that although minimal power draw, is still a power draw, the magnet gets hot, heating the fluid, along with driving/abusing it, etc.etc..

even those little 2milliamp led's get warm to the touch, and you can run a billion of them on a AA battery!! lol


i installed my locker.. and ive installed many a R&P's in my day.. so setting up a rear is no biggie..

about 500 and then 700 miles after i installed it, i opened it back up to inspect, everything was exactly as i set it, backlash was still at the .008 i set it at, wear pattern was perfect, heel,toe,drive and driven/coast side, so now its time for real world tests...

now, after a hard day into night (15 hours) wheeling trip, locked, unlocked, all situations.. with heated diff fluid being dunking and flashfreezing it in 20 degree lakes, and VERY minor water intrusion, i took everything back apart to inspect, my backlash was now at .018 out of spec.. bearings compressed, reseated and the shims compressed, while i was in there, i noticed that the hair of play that was created by the extra .010, was causing the axle (amongst other things) to play in and out, pulling and pushing the whole carrier with it .. unneccessary strain on the carrier and spiders maybe?!?!?

if i didnt think of rechecking the backlash when i did the diff flush, i wouldnt have caught it and maybe/probably blew the locker/R&P..

coincidentally after doing all this, my next weakest point gave, my pinion shaft snapped,so while waiting for the new yukons, i sent it to auburn and it passed and they sent it back.. didnt even have to do that DREX thing..

so off i went to redo the whooooole diff again..

that was 400 miles ago, just did another check.. A-OK

ill be due for a diff check in about 300 more miles.. just to make sure everything is still set right in there

but my ected has done a great job in keeping my 15psi, 35" claws locked together

but FWIW.. it might just be the lockers.. who knows.. maybe im just lucky, but if mine goes, im going to either an ARB, or OX.. totally differant internal design, and better/stronger structural components




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Unread 02-17-2009, 08:59 PM   #15
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Just Spool the 8.8 it can take it. I've seen mustangs with 600+hp and they don't break
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