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Unread 04-21-2002, 09:49 AM   #1
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ARTICULATION 88 YJ

i have an 88 yj w/ 2.5" rancho suspension. this thing has hardly any flex. is this normal? from sitting on the ground to jacking it up by the frame, on the front wheels there is about 2" of flex on the wheels. on the back there is about 1.5" of flex. is this normal? will sway bar disconnects help on this? how much more movement should i expect?
i guess those jeeps in the magazines with all of that flex and articulation have really done some mods!
any input will be appreciated.... <a href="http://communities.msn.com/SOCALJEEPERS/shoebox.msnw" target="_blank">my jeep pics</a>

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Unread 04-21-2002, 10:11 AM   #2
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Swaybar disconnects will help a lot! They are there specifically to prevent articulation. So you can go around turns on the street and keep the Jeep from leaning. Definately invest in a set.
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Unread 04-21-2002, 11:18 AM   #3
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Why not make your own disconnects?
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thanks.. i'll have to get a set.
how much more should i expect to articulate if i'm getting 2" now?
what about the back? is there something to do to the back of the jeep to improve the travel there?
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Unread 04-21-2002, 01:02 PM   #5
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frame jacking isn't a good way to tell articulation anyway your esentually takeing a complete spring out of the sysyem ( i know the axle is still pushing on it some but not nearly as much as if the jack were under the tire) which isn't possible unless you have a fork lift handy like some pics people have
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by rollinashortysahara:
<strong>frame jacking isn't a good way to tell articulation anyway your esentually takeing a complete spring out of the sysyem ( i know the axle is still pushing on it some but not nearly as much as if the jack were under the tire) which isn't possible unless you have a fork lift handy like some pics people have</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Couldn't resist.
<img src="http://www.rockcrawler.com/readersrides/showcase/october00/24.jpg" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.rockcrawler.com/readersrides/showcase/october00/26.jpg" alt="" />
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Hey Nailer, how is the power of the four banger with the 31" tires? Is it much worse than stock?
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to be honest with you, i had the stock tires on it for about a week, and most of that was in my garage on stands. so i dont really have much to compare it to.
the 4 banger seems to have adequate power though on the city streets, and the one time i've had it on any challenging trails it did really well, but i was in low gear. wish i had some pics of that. i'm just trieing to get this thing trail ready. i just ordered the lock right locker for the front. i thing this will improve the ability of it. soon enough i'll get some pics of this thing earning it's keep. i've only had it for a month or so. if you go to the link you'll see the work i've done to it so far.
well... i think that't long winded enough
lol <img src="http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=showMyPhoto&albumID=3616316 0&photoID=36163616&security=ScNdBA" alt="" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by osburn:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by rollinashortysahara:
<strong>frame jacking isn't a good way to tell articulation anyway your esentually takeing a complete spring out of the sysyem ( i know the axle is still pushing on it some but not nearly as much as if the jack were under the tire) which isn't possible unless you have a fork lift handy like some pics people have</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Couldn't resist.
<img src="http://www.rockcrawler.com/readersrides/showcase/october00/24.jpg" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.rockcrawler.com/readersrides/showcase/october00/26.jpg" alt="" /></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Osburn that's just not nice <img src="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/mica/chimp.gif" alt="" />
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My 93YJ was so bad I couldn't hardly get through the front gate of Kelly Flats trail west of Fort Collins, Colo. It's rated intermediate with lots of off camber holes, rocks, ruts, and very steep on Heart Attack Hill. Later on another trail I broke my rear track bar mount and the fun (not facetious) began. I went back to Kelly Flats and unhooked my sway bar and it was the difference between night and day. My jeep is mostly stock with 31x10.5 tires and the front will flex 14.5" and the back 16". I may try it with the front track bar off too but I don't know if it will add that much more.
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If you disconnect the swaybar, and don't disconnect the front trac bar off road, expect the bolt to shear or the mount to give. Mine always sheared the bolts when I was too lazy to disconnect the trac bar. I've seen mounts go. And yes, I mean the mount on top of your axle disconnect. Not the whole mount ever. Just seen the gussets crack. The rear mount never holds up.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Dan CR:
Osburn that's just not nice <img src="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/mica/chimp.gif" alt="" />[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Sowwy. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />
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ok, now i get the sway bar disconnect...
what' with the trac bar disconnect?
does anyone have a photo of these disconnected?
now, also.... these are just temporarily disconnected while off roading? right?
with these all disconnected esentialy the leaf springs are doing ALL the work holding everything together...
if this is the case... after four wheeling, is it relatively easy to get everything lined back up to re attatch the trac bars?
i know there are a lot of questions here, but i'd like to get it right w/o wrecking something out on the trail.
thanks for any feedback.
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Unread 04-23-2002, 09:03 PM   #15
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Toss the rear trac bar permanently. Disconnect the swaybar and the front trac bar just for the trail. The Jeep definately handles best with a swaybar and front trac bar. It is something you can learn to live without however. I can't live without a front swaybar myself. And it wasn't until recently that I've learned to tolerate the slower steering response with no front trac bar. Honestly, I'd rather have it in there on the pavement.

And sometimes it's easy to get everything lined back up. Usually it takes some effort. Turning your wheels left and right will sometimes help get things close enough to get the pins and bolts back in. Sometimes, ya gotta shove on the Jeep. I always use a breaker bar or something for leverage to get the swaybar reconnected. It all just depends. No matter what, it's worth it to have them off on the trail.
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