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Unread 11-07-2010, 09:47 PM   #1
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arc welder

would an arc welder do the job for some miner body work and other random stuff ide need to do for my yj? want to learn to weld and i found an arc welder on craigslist for $100. that semms like a good deal to me. let me know what you think
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Unread 11-07-2010, 09:54 PM   #2
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Hard to do sheet metal with a arc welder. Burns a hole in thin stuff real easy. What you need is a wire welder or a MIG.
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Unread 11-07-2010, 09:56 PM   #3
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alright, thanks for the help
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Unread 11-07-2010, 10:11 PM   #4
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Arc welding really isn't suited to working with sheetmetal
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Unread 11-07-2010, 10:30 PM   #5
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I'm probebly going to get bashed by all of the good fab and welding guys on here for recommending cheap Harbor Freight stuff but I don't care. About a year ago I was thinking like you in wanting to learn how to weld. Rather that spend several hundreds or even thousands of dollars on something I knew nothong about, I bought a $100.00 Harbor Freight wire feed flux welder. It's the cheap 110V 90A version. After playing around with it and learning what it is capable of, I couldn't be more happy with it. I have fabbed up numerous projects with it. I have made my own rock sliders, tube fender flares, bump stop pads, and a bunch of other stuff non Jeep related. I am sure I will step up and buy a Miller, Hobart, or Lincoln down the road sometime, but untill then my $100.00 cheap chinese piece of crap is doing a great job. It's been a lot of fun learning something new. Take a look at them. The worst that can happen is you can lose $100.00. And by the way, it will weld sheet metal for minor body work if you use properly.
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Unread 11-07-2010, 10:36 PM   #6
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I have the Harbour freight 220v 150a welder and have used it a lot in 3 years. My welding is not pretty but nothing I have stitched together has failed. I have put a new floor, firewall and rocker panel on my 1967 Triumph GT6. Made front and back bumpers welded the tubes to the pumpkin on my 8.8. and a bunch of smaller tasks.
May not be the best tool around but it does what I want it to do.

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Unread 11-07-2010, 10:47 PM   #7
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hmmm thanks guys, i will look into the harbor and freight welders then. sadly there is not a harbor and fright close to me so anything i buy from them will have to be from their web site.

another thing i want to weld is some d rings on my bumpers they were installed by a p.o. and i like them but they dont have any tow points besides the tow hooks in the front
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Unread 11-07-2010, 10:55 PM   #8
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Wow. I thought HF was everywhere. Do you have a McDonalds in your town?

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Unread 11-07-2010, 11:11 PM   #9
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haha thanks for the link. the store finder says there is one in Allentown about 30 mins away. but i really dont know Allentown at all

billy Joel did do a song on Allentown so it cant be too bad

and i do have 3 or more McDonald's within 5 miles of my house
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Unread 11-08-2010, 09:28 AM   #10
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Also don't forget Craigslist. I was going to buy a HF mig welder to learn with and I checked CL and got a used Lincoln that is capable of running gas (the low end HF welders are flux core only) for $150. Been running strong for a couple of months now, I even had to buy more wire this weekend...
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Unread 11-08-2010, 12:55 PM   #11
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If you can get Miller that would be your best bet, a lincoln is a close second , then either a hobart or a harbor freight. They all get the job done but a miller has much better arc quality.
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Unread 11-08-2010, 01:12 PM   #12
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I used my HF welder. I bought the 110V flux core welder, for the price it was an awesome machine I have used 3 spools of wire already in it. With all that being said I had to borrow a Hobart 110V with more wire feed options. The HF had only 2 amp levels (how "hot" your spark is) low or high. I was doing exterior body work and the Hobart had much more versatility in achieving my desire of a cleaner seam to the exterior sections I replaced. Dont get me wrong the HF was doing an OK job but I was having some level of difficulty with it.

I would highly recommend an auto darkening helmet though, when your learning it is nice to be able to see where you are before you strike.

Good luck
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Unread 11-08-2010, 01:24 PM   #13
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Funny I just repaired the floor under the drivers seat with my HF flux core welder. I did upgrade to the Hobart wire though.

I did a pretty good job with it. Flux core is messy. Prep work is key too.

Mine was under $70 after the coupons and all.
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I'm probebly going to get bashed by all of the good fab and welding guys on here for recommending cheap Harbor Freight stuff but I don't care. About a year ago I was thinking like you in wanting to learn how to weld. Rather that spend several hundreds or even thousands of dollars on something I knew nothong about, I bought a $100.00 Harbor Freight wire feed flux welder. It's the cheap 110V 90A version. After playing around with it and learning what it is capable of, I couldn't be more happy with it. I have fabbed up numerous projects with it. I have made my own rock sliders, tube fender flares, bump stop pads, and a bunch of other stuff non Jeep related. I am sure I will step up and buy a Miller, Hobart, or Lincoln down the road sometime, but untill then my $100.00 cheap chinese piece of crap is doing a great job. It's been a lot of fun learning something new. Take a look at them. The worst that can happen is you can lose $100.00. And by the way, it will weld sheet metal for minor body work if you use properly.
harborfrieght is gonna make a little cash off of me now thanks to you. thanks for the info, its just what i was looking for
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Unread 11-08-2010, 02:03 PM   #15
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There is nothing wrong with those cheap little welders as long as your expectations are right. Thin metal, don't run for long periods or they over heat and don't try to run a fabrication shop. If it turns out you don't like welding, don't have the knack or just don't need it you are only out <$100.

But, I don't think you will get enough penetration with a 110v one to make bumpers or much else that's over about 1/8 thick.
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